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MarcusOdim Groupie Brazil Joined 4837 days ago 91 posts - 142 votes
| Message 17 of 41 04 January 2013 at 8:50pm | IP Logged |
How easy is it for Danes/Norwegians/Swedes to understand Icelandic?
Is it similar to when your mother tongue is Portuguese and you try to learn French?
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6587 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 18 of 41 04 January 2013 at 9:35pm | IP Logged |
I don't think it's comparable, simply because we're talking of just three languages vs a huge group. If you take any three Romance languages, one of them will be what Norwegian is to Swedish and Danish, at least sort of. The extent of the comparison will of course depend on the languages.
e.g.
Spanish - Italian - French
Portuguese - Spanish - Italian
French - Catalan - Spanish
Romanian - Italian - Spanish
Spanish - Portuguese - French
The most common "middle languages" will probably be Spanish and Italian.
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| GRagazzo Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4951 days ago 115 posts - 168 votes Speaks: Italian, English* Studies: Spanish, Swedish, French
| Message 19 of 41 05 January 2013 at 12:03am | IP Logged |
Serpent I think you are right, it is better to find the middle of three languages than
a middle for the entire Romance family.
MarcusOdim wrote:
How easy is it for Danes/Norwegians/Swedes to understand Icelandic?
Is it similar to when your mother tongue is Portuguese and you try to learn French?
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From my understanding Icelandic has a very conservative vocabulary and is also a highly
inflected language making it very different from the other Scandinavian languages. I
think Portuguese speakers would have a much easier time learning French than a
Dane/Norwegian/Swede would learning Icelandic since the differences in romance
languages are not nearly as large as the differences between Icelandic and the other Scandinavian languages.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6587 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 20 of 41 05 January 2013 at 1:01am | IP Logged |
It's more like modern Romance langs vs Latin I think...
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| alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7211 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish
| Message 21 of 41 05 January 2013 at 6:51am | IP Logged |
MarcusOdim wrote:
How easy is it for Danes/Norwegians/Swedes to understand Icelandic?
Is it similar to when your mother tongue is Portuguese and you try to learn French?
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The other way around has to be considered. How easy is it for Icelandic speakers to
understand the other Scandinavian languages?
Prof. Arguelles on one of his older post stated about the Romance languages, that one who
has the mother language Latin will find it easier to learn the daughter languages after,
than the other way around.
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6899 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 22 of 41 05 January 2013 at 1:50pm | IP Logged |
I don't know any Icelandic or Latin, but while I'm convinced that knowledge of either is helpful (for instance, you'll be familiar with the concept of cases, as well as a lot of vocabulary), and while I'm usually in favour of "doing difficult things first", I don't see why anyone who's primarily interested in Da/No/Sw or any language in the Romance family would consider starting with Icelandic or Latin.
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| Improbably Diglot Newbie Norway Joined 4926 days ago 34 posts - 87 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English
| Message 23 of 41 05 January 2013 at 6:11pm | IP Logged |
It might not fit this thread, as it's a conlang, but, Interlingua?
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| alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7211 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish
| Message 24 of 41 05 January 2013 at 9:28pm | IP Logged |
jeff_lindqvist wrote:
I don't know any Icelandic or Latin, but while I'm convinced that knowledge of either is helpful (for instance, you'll be familiar with the concept of cases, as well as a lot of vocabulary), and while I'm usually in favour of "doing difficult things first", I don't see why anyone who's primarily interested in Da/No/Sw or any language in the Romance family would consider starting with Icelandic or Latin. |
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IMO to have an overall idea, if one were to pursue many more languages in the same family. The old post referred to how Latin connects the dots on the daughter languages.
In my case I will be attempting four Romance languages, then Latin.
Scandinavian for me would be first Swedish, due to the amount of resources. Icelandic would come in fourth, Faroese last.
I am curious to know if an Icelandic speaker can learn Swedish, Norwegian or Danish faster, than the other way around.
I spoke some Latin phrases to some Spanish speakers and the responses varied. One man said, he could not understand it, while his sister understood and told me the exact translation. From what I recall, neither studied Latin at all.
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