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| PG18 Diglot Newbie Netherlands goo.gl/E3J9u Joined 5027 days ago 17 posts - 18 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English Studies: Portuguese | Message 1 of 9 20 October 2013 at 11:13pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hello,
Sometimes I pronounce the letter i completely wrong in English. For example, the i in the following words sounds different: king, time, sir So I'm wondering if there is a rule for the pronuncation of this letter? Thanks! Edited by PG18 on 20 October 2013 at 11:15pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Glarus Girl Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4573 days ago 50 posts - 108 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, Swiss-German | Message 2 of 9 20 October 2013 at 11:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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Maybe this website may help you it has videos on each of the letters and how to say them.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/grammar/pr on/sounds/vowel_short_1.shtml I don't know why this link keeps adding a space in between /pron/ but if you take it out it will work! Sorry about that! Edited by Glarus Girl on 20 October 2013 at 11:34pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Cabaire Senior Member Germany Joined 5597 days ago 725 posts - 1352 votes | Message 3 of 9 20 October 2013 at 11:31pm | IP Logged | ||
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You have to learn for every word whether it is pronounced like king or time. There is no rule. If it is followed by an r, it is usually pronounced as in sir or as in fire. Edited by Cabaire on 20 October 2013 at 11:39pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Darklight1216 Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5098 days ago 411 posts - 639 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German | Message 4 of 9 20 October 2013 at 11:31pm | IP Logged | ||
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I pronounce the letter I differently in all three of those words.
I don't know what dialect/accent you're going for in English, but I encourage you find some audio of it and listen carefully and repeat it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Glarus Girl Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4573 days ago 50 posts - 108 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Swiss-German | Message 5 of 9 20 October 2013 at 11:41pm | IP Logged | ||
There is a rule I was taught in infant school about 45 years ago! It was called the 'fairy e' - so words that had an 'e' on the end changed the sound from a short vowel to a long one. There are exceptions but those are the ones you just have to remember. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Cabaire Senior Member Germany Joined 5597 days ago 725 posts - 1352 votes | Message 6 of 9 20 October 2013 at 11:42pm | IP Logged | ||
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This site has a maximal number of letters which you can use for a word. Therefore the system breaks up longer url-adresses.
Use instead this format: short i 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Cabaire Senior Member Germany Joined 5597 days ago 725 posts - 1352 votes | Message 7 of 9 20 October 2013 at 11:48pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ah yes, Glarus girl, you are right, the silent e changes the short i to the diphthong.
Therefor hi was an exception because it is not pronounced like in spaghetti. Edited by Cabaire on 20 October 2013 at 11:52pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5226 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French | Message 8 of 9 21 October 2013 at 10:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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Wikipedia's explanation is helpful here. Particularly look at the chart, which shows the effects of adding a silent e:
"English vowels are sometimes split into "long" and "short" vowels along lines different from the linguistic differentiation. Traditionally, the vowels /eɪ iː aɪ oʊ juː/ (as in bait beet bite boat beauty) are said to be the "long" counterparts of the vowels /æ ɛ ɪ ɒ ʌ/ (as in bat bet bit bot but) which are said to be "short". This terminology reflects their pronunciation before the Great Vowel Shift. "Traditional English phonics teaching, at the preschool to first grade level, often used the term "long vowel" for any pronunciation that might result from the addition of a silent E (e.g., like) or other vowel letter as follows: Letter "Short" "Long" Example A a /æ/ /eɪ/ "mat" / "mate" E e /ɛ/ /iː/ "pet" / "Pete" I i /ɪ/ /aɪ/ "twin" / "twine" O o /ɒ/ /oʊ/ "not" / "note" U u /ʌ/ /juː/ "cub" / "cube" "A mnemonic was that each vowel's long sound was its name." As to the vowel in the word "sir," see the Wikipedia article on r-coloring. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-colored_vowel I'm writing as an American English speaker with a rhotic accent. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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