FuroraCeltica Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6716 days ago 1187 posts - 1427 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) Speaks: English*, Spanish, French
| Message 1 of 32 21 January 2014 at 9:08pm | IP Logged |
I have been doing some research and am curious: how many reviews of vocabulary do you think you would need before it is solidly consolidated in your memory?
Edited by FuroraCeltica on 21 January 2014 at 9:09pm
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Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5185 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 2 of 32 21 January 2014 at 9:36pm | IP Logged |
At my age - around 648 :-)
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Hungringo Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 3839 days ago 168 posts - 329 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) Speaks: Hungarian*, English, Spanish Studies: French
| Message 3 of 32 21 January 2014 at 10:24pm | IP Logged |
It's difficult to tell. In my experience the most important is to see or hear the word in context as many times as possible. Those words that you often use always will be more secured than less frequent words.
This is why I think it's often easier to learn a new language from scratch to an intermediate level, than moving from intermediate level to really advanced skills. Words like table, chair, sleep, read, eat, big, small etc. are easy to retain because you come across them very often. On the other hand, I always forget the English name of grebe, for instance. Unless you are a bird-watcher or wild-life photographer, several years might pass until you hear this bird's name again.
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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6448 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 4 of 32 21 January 2014 at 11:03pm | IP Logged |
Yeah, context is the key. Also the difficulty/length of the word and whether it's similar to other words you know (can be a good or a bad thing).
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JiriT Triglot Groupie Czech Republic Joined 4648 days ago 60 posts - 95 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) Speaks: Czech*, English, German
| Message 5 of 32 21 January 2014 at 11:24pm | IP Logged |
The question is in fact very complex. The rule is what you do not use, you are
forgetting it. It is less important how many times you have repeated the word. More
important is when you used the word last time.
I also believe, it is good to distinguish between the two stages. The first stage, you
learn words mainly mechanically, by memory drill. The question should rather be how
many times to repeat each word in one's memory drill system. In my opinion the last
repetition interval should be at least 2-3 months, ideally 6 months (which should make
about 10 or 12 repetitions totally).
But it is good to be more focused on natural use repetition. Then you do not have to
count the repetitions or the length of the last interval. Memory drill should be used
at the beginning and then you should repeat the vocabulary in a natural way: by
reading, listening, speaking etc.
Without learning words in their natural use you can learn the words well (mechanically)
but you can not use them well.
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Speakeasy Senior Member Canada Joined 3903 days ago 507 posts - 1098 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) Studies: German
| Message 6 of 32 21 January 2014 at 11:52pm | IP Logged |
Apparently, Dr. Paul Pimsleur developed his "graduated interval method" based, to a large extent, on the theory of memory postulated by Professor C.A. Macy. Here is the Wikipedia version of the tale:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graduated_interval_recall#Pimsl eur.27s_graduated-interval_recall
Edited by Speakeasy on 21 January 2014 at 11:57pm
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sctroyenne Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5242 days ago 739 posts - 1312 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish, Irish
| Message 7 of 32 22 January 2014 at 2:10am | IP Logged |
I find that deliberately learning a word (such as from a wordlist) helps me identify it
later when I'm out "in the field" but that it's my exposure through context that really
makes me learn it. My advice would be to always alternate deliberate vocabulary study
with extensive reading, listening, and live conversations to see what pops up.
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AML Senior Member United States Joined 6676 days ago 323 posts - 426 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) 2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, German, Spanish
| Message 8 of 32 22 January 2014 at 4:07am | IP Logged |
FuroraCeltica wrote:
I have been doing some research and am curious: how many reviews of vocabulary do you think you would need before it is solidly consolidated in your memory? |
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According to this article - 160 times.
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