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FuroraCeltica
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21 January 2014 at 9:08pm | IP Logged 
I have been doing some research and am curious: how many reviews of vocabulary do you think you would need before it is solidly consolidated in your memory?

Edited by FuroraCeltica on 21 January 2014 at 9:09pm

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Solfrid Cristin
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21 January 2014 at 9:36pm | IP Logged 
At my age - around 648 :-)
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21 January 2014 at 10:24pm | IP Logged 
It's difficult to tell. In my experience the most important is to see or hear the word in context as many times as possible. Those words that you often use always will be more secured than less frequent words.

This is why I think it's often easier to learn a new language from scratch to an intermediate level, than moving from intermediate level to really advanced skills. Words like table, chair, sleep, read, eat, big, small etc. are easy to retain because you come across them very often. On the other hand, I always forget the English name of grebe, for instance. Unless you are a bird-watcher or wild-life photographer, several years might pass until you hear this bird's name again.

Edited by Hungringo on 21 January 2014 at 10:27pm

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21 January 2014 at 11:03pm | IP Logged 
Yeah, context is the key. Also the difficulty/length of the word and whether it's similar to other words you know (can be a good or a bad thing).
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21 January 2014 at 11:24pm | IP Logged 
The question is in fact very complex. The rule is what you do not use, you are
forgetting it. It is less important how many times you have repeated the word. More
important is when you used the word last time.

I also believe, it is good to distinguish between the two stages. The first stage, you
learn words mainly mechanically, by memory drill. The question should rather be how
many times to repeat each word in one's memory drill system. In my opinion the last
repetition interval should be at least 2-3 months, ideally 6 months (which should make
about 10 or 12 repetitions totally).

But it is good to be more focused on natural use repetition. Then you do not have to
count the repetitions or the length of the last interval. Memory drill should be used
at the beginning and then you should repeat the vocabulary in a natural way: by
reading, listening, speaking etc.

Without learning words in their natural use you can learn the words well (mechanically)
but you can not use them well.
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21 January 2014 at 11:52pm | IP Logged 
Apparently, Dr. Paul Pimsleur developed his "graduated interval method" based, to a large extent, on the theory of memory postulated by Professor C.A. Macy. Here is the Wikipedia version of the tale:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graduated_interval_recall#Pimsl eur.27s_graduated-interval_recall

Edited by Speakeasy on 21 January 2014 at 11:57pm

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22 January 2014 at 2:10am | IP Logged 
I find that deliberately learning a word (such as from a wordlist) helps me identify it
later when I'm out "in the field" but that it's my exposure through context that really
makes me learn it. My advice would be to always alternate deliberate vocabulary study
with extensive reading, listening, and live conversations to see what pops up.
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22 January 2014 at 4:07am | IP Logged 
FuroraCeltica wrote:
I have been doing some research and am curious: how many reviews of vocabulary do you think you would need before it is solidly consolidated in your memory?


According to this article - 160 times.


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