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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4650 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 17 of 23 09 March 2014 at 10:39am | IP Logged |
Serpent wrote:
Also note how the original claim was about what PIE *sounded* like.
Esperanto sounds like Italian or Spanish to someone who's only vaguely familiar with
these languages. It's often very specific things that create such an impression - for
example using la as an article or having nouns that end in -s. |
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I always love how in Romanian when you first read it you think "why is there la in front
of everything, is it an article" and then you realise it's a preposition - woops.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6540 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 18 of 23 09 March 2014 at 11:27am | IP Logged |
And how come educated people say "dupa" all the time... :D
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4650 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 19 of 23 09 March 2014 at 11:57am | IP Logged |
Serpent wrote:
And how come educated people say "dupa" all the time... :D |
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It's that you are Russian, because după clearly does not have the stress on that second
vowel turned all the way up, hahaha....
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6540 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 20 of 23 09 March 2014 at 12:48pm | IP Logged |
What does the second vowel have to do with it? :)
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4650 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 21 of 23 09 March 2014 at 12:49pm | IP Logged |
Serpent wrote:
What does the second vowel have to do with it? :) |
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Normally someone who pronounces the word "dupa" as you wrote it does it with a very long
a (if you don't reduce the vowel). However in Romanian you need to turn it into a schwa,
but in Russian you'd also put a schwa there. (assuming you reduce the a with a Russian
accent). So that's why. Dupaaaaaa is not Dupuh.
Edited by tarvos on 09 March 2014 at 12:59pm
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6540 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 22 of 23 09 March 2014 at 12:58pm | IP Logged |
Yeah, I know how it's written :P It's just discouraging how many Romanians don't type the diacriticts properly.
And yeah, Russian and Romanian reduce the a in roughly the same way.
So does Polish
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4650 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 23 of 23 09 March 2014 at 1:01pm | IP Logged |
Serpent wrote:
Yeah, I know how it's written :P It's just discouraging how many
Romanians don't type the diacriticts properly.
And yeah, Russian and Romanian reduce the a in roughly the same way.
So does Polish |
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Yeah you know that always annoyed the shit out of me, the shebang with the diacritics,
but you get used to it. In fact I first saw Romanian without them then asked what those
signs on the posters in the kitchen were :D But the Romanians I talk to usually don't
write them.
Another story - I was teaching a Romanian Dutch a while back and we talked about
something - some phenomenon in Bucharest iirc - and I opened the wiki page and read it
out, and he said "you have a Russian accent when you speak Romanian". I must have
reduced all my vowels, haha...
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