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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4558 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 9 of 15 02 March 2014 at 11:58pm | IP Logged | ||
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I pretty much always speed read, except if I don't know the language well enough to pull
that trick off. Then I just read a lot and at some point I get to the level where I can do it. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4679 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 10 of 15 03 March 2014 at 2:26pm | IP Logged | ||
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Do other people "hear" a voice in their head when they read, either in a target
language or native language? I've seen it claimed that it's supposed to be "bad" to do this in one's normal native language; I'll leave that one dangling. But in a target language, I'd think it would be pretty valuable, and I certainly try to do it. Harder to do this when speed reading. And hard to speed-read when reading out-loud, and I think readng out loud is a useful exercise - not always and not everywhere, obviously, but fairly regularly. Edited by montmorency on 03 March 2014 at 2:26pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| DinaAlia Pentaglot Newbie Norway Joined 3783 days ago 24 posts - 49 votes Speaks: Swedish, Danish, Norwegian*, English, French Studies: Greek, Latin, Arabic (Egyptian), German, Spanish, Russian, Arabic (Written), Icelandic Studies: Modern Hebrew | Message 11 of 15 03 March 2014 at 6:50pm | IP Logged | ||
Yes. Reading fast quiets it down. Doesn't seem to stop the information from being there. Maybe my brain is just weird about these things. I rarely read aloud, but it does sound like a good way to go about it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6554 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 12 of 15 03 March 2014 at 8:25pm | IP Logged | ||
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If you speedread you skip the most important elements in the target language you are
supposed to learn, namely the 'grammar words'. Of course it has its merits, but mainly when you read for content. As for reading 1000 pages of Finnish: good luck. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6526 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 13 of 15 03 March 2014 at 8:56pm | IP Logged | ||
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If you want to practice "extensive reading" and you have good enough L2 reading skills, it might be a good idea.
Sometimes I use this free software: http://www.eyercize.com/practice/bm_read/ 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| DinaAlia Pentaglot Newbie Norway Joined 3783 days ago 24 posts - 49 votes Speaks: Swedish, Danish, Norwegian*, English, French Studies: Greek, Latin, Arabic (Egyptian), German, Spanish, Russian, Arabic (Written), Icelandic Studies: Modern Hebrew | Message 14 of 15 03 March 2014 at 9:10pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you for that link, slucido. That's quite helpful! Speed reading software has the advantage that you can make it
make you go faster than you can make yourself go with a capped pen guide and turnable pages. Thank you for the encouragement, Iversen. I think you only miss the small words if they are meaningless to you, though. With Ilias, I always notice "vai", "or", which I learned on an earlier occasion; I also notice different endings, though I can't begin to guess which are genitive and which are which type of locative and so on. I'll save all that for later, though. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6448 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 15 of 15 06 March 2014 at 1:29pm | IP Logged | ||
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try this test.
Don't read the rest of my comment until you've checked the link. Don't. An explanation is to follow. This is relevant to this topic. Especially this particular quote:
That's not how it works. You notice "vai" because you know very few Finnish words. If you knew the meaningful words surrounding it, you'd barely notice this one. When you're actually learning a language, prepositions will get filtered out before you truly learn them. When you're reading extensively, you don't notice prepositions at all, or you just classify them as prepositions without caring about the details until something truly stands out. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but for an accurate production you need something like lyricstraining, MCD or usual cloze deletion, or making your own exercises. See this thread too. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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