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| Cantomax Newbie Kazakhstan Englishlikeanative.cRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3770 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes Speaks: English* | Message 1 of 14 05 March 2014 at 10:38am | IP Logged |
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Has anyone come across a language course where they deliberate mix languages in an attempt to 'naturally' help you learn the new words.
I saw a course last year and for the life of me can no longer find it. For example; Tomorrow I am going to go to la playa. I know there will be people who think this is terrible, I was just hoping someone would know where to find this course (as I have promised a friend the details). Thanks Joanne 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Henkkles Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4104 days ago 544 posts - 1141 votes  Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: Russian | Message 2 of 14 05 March 2014 at 1:13pm | IP Logged |
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Well at first it seems like it's begging for interference, so I am quite understandably skeptical, but can you cite anything, what's it based on? I'm minorly interested.
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| Cantomax Newbie Kazakhstan Englishlikeanative.cRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3770 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes Speaks: English* | Message 3 of 14 05 March 2014 at 1:21pm | IP Logged |
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It's based on the idea of code switching, code mixing (I think) where a language speaker naturally moves to a different language and back again. It is supposed to bring familiarity of the new language gradually to the learner. I thought it was an interesting way to get started.
There were several different languages in these courses, but like I say I can't find them online anymore. Would probably be better if they explained what their idea is based on. If you have any ideas on what I should search under, all help appreciated. Thanks 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6448 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 4 of 14 05 March 2014 at 4:27pm | IP Logged |
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Henkkles, I really love "Senja opettaa ruotsia" that uses a similar method.
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| alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7072 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 5 of 14 05 March 2014 at 5:22pm | IP Logged |
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I believe Power-glide programs are like this. I have not gone through my Latin course, but did listen to the first couple of tracks a couple years back. A story starts out in English and starts to place target language words in the sentences. Translating what the words mean upon introduction. Eventually more words in a sentence. Presumably entire sentences after a while. I actually looked at some reviews for the Power-glide Spanish course on Amazon.com and the criticisms are mainly about the course being Spanglish. The course has too much English and apparently not enough of the target language. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Cantomax Newbie Kazakhstan Englishlikeanative.cRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3770 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes Speaks: English* | Message 6 of 14 05 March 2014 at 5:51pm | IP Logged |
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Hi, There seems to be a lot of talk calling it the 'diglot weave' saying it began in Russia with storytelling to 6 year olds. There is also reference to Pimsleur, saying they use this approach. I am not sure how true this is as the advertisement for Pimsleur talks a lot about learning by listening.
If anyone has any other links, please keep them coming! Thanks 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4679 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 7 of 14 05 March 2014 at 10:58pm | IP Logged |
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Sounds like it could be could for indvidivual word vocabulary building, and perhaps short
phrases. It's hard to see how language structure differences would be handled though.. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7072 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 8 of 14 05 March 2014 at 11:00pm | IP Logged |
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I believe Pimsleur is different. There is a lot of English, but introduction wise you
listen to a short conversation only in the target language and then it is broken down throughout the thirty minute lesson. The learner uses the words given and are reviewed by a prompt to prevent the words from fading away. It is interactive and effective, as the learner immediately speaks only in the target language. Later in the lesson the entire dialogue is repeated in the target language again in it's entirety. The learner understands what the dialogue was said. My analogy for Pimsleur and steps are as follows: 1) Seeing a picture of many puzzles combined as a whole first on how it is suppose to look like. (The target language dialogue) 2) The picture is broken down to pieces on how the puzzle fits into each other. No explanation of grammar just inference. It is done in isolation each word and part as it were on the usage. (Words in the dialogue) 3) Finally when the pieces of the puzzle fit all together you realize the whole is greater, than the sum of its' parts, but each part is necessary to make it whole. (The target language dialogue again) I would say Pimsleur is different and does not have the same approach. It does not teach the learner to use English and place a smattering of target language words while using English. The Power-glide program on the other hand makes use of the Diglot weave method. I just feel they narrate it to you and passively the learner, starts using words here and there, but not functional conversation. I still have to fully go through the course, but if there were a comparison for most useful between Power-glide and Pimsleur, then it is not much of a contest. I vote for Pimsleur. I am editing to add this part: I do believe also the diglot weave method is beneficial for vocabulary building, but language acquisition for conversation is a different story all together. I found some Power-glide samples on Youtube here. The other weakness for Power-glide seems to be non-native speakers. I can understand the Latin course being so, but the other programs does not have much of an excuse. Power-glide uses other activities also, such as puzzles, games, songs and others. This is to reiterate, that Pimsleur is not the same method. Edited by alang on 07 March 2014 at 8:51am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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