dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4655 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese
| Message 9 of 17 30 June 2014 at 12:14am | IP Logged |
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Con il gelo nella mente sto correndo verso te
Siamo nella stessa sorte che tagliente ci cambierà..
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With a chill in my mind I am running to you
Our fate shares the same thread, and cutting it will change us
As @Gollum87 says, "gelo" here can be translated using anything that conveys the idea
of cold or numbness in the mind. In English, "chill" will do nicely.
I can't come up with a good translation of the second part. basically, "we share the
same fate/fortune/future but cutting/changing it will change us".
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drygramul Tetraglot Senior Member Italy Joined 4458 days ago 165 posts - 269 votes Speaks: Persian, Italian*, EnglishC2, GermanB2 Studies: French, Polish
| Message 10 of 17 01 July 2014 at 10:56am | IP Logged |
Just to nitpick, "tagliente" is participio presente, therefore the sentence is active and sorte/che can't be the object of the cutting, but rather the subject :)
Otherwise you'd have participio passato "tagliato".
So you could translate it like "we share the same fate/fortune/future that, in a harsh way/in a sharp way/by cutting, will change us"
Edited by drygramul on 01 July 2014 at 10:59am
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Gollum87 Diglot Newbie Yugoslavia Joined 3927 days ago 31 posts - 46 votes Speaks: Serbian*, English Studies: Italian
| Message 11 of 17 18 August 2014 at 12:41pm | IP Logged |
I'm confused about something..
I read one text about Roman Gods in Italian, and I noticed something..
The word for "gods" is "gli dei", but why there is GLI article and not I ? Why not "i
dei" ?
Are there more words in Italian with GLI article in plural not beginning with SC, Z, X,
PN, GN,PS and a A,E,I,O,U ???
Grazie..
Edited by Gollum87 on 18 August 2014 at 12:42pm
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dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4655 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese
| Message 12 of 17 18 August 2014 at 1:00pm | IP Logged |
Gollum87 wrote:
The word for "gods" is "gli dei", but why there is GLI article and not I
? Why not "i
dei" ?
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dei used to be iddei, so gli iddei made perfect sense. Over time the
initial id vanished but gli stuck.
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RadinaM Pentaglot Newbie Spain radinamatic.com Joined 3743 days ago 14 posts - 14 votes Speaks: Serbian*, Catalan, EnglishC2, ItalianC2, SpanishC2 Studies: Danish
| Message 13 of 17 20 August 2014 at 5:51am | IP Logged |
Grazie, dampingwire, per ricordaci che gli dei una volta erano (o lo sono ancora, se la pronuncia di uno è toscaneggiante), infatti, iddei... :)
Gollum, per i dettagli vedere qui: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deglutinazione
Ako treba pomoć oko prevoda sa italijanskog, ti viči! ;)
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tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4037 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch
| Message 14 of 17 20 August 2014 at 6:19pm | IP Logged |
Interessante scoprirlo da uno straniero, per quanto mi riguardava diciamo "gli dei" solo perche' "i dei" suona male :D
How did you discover it? :S
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drygramul Tetraglot Senior Member Italy Joined 4458 days ago 165 posts - 269 votes Speaks: Persian, Italian*, EnglishC2, GermanB2 Studies: French, Polish
| Message 15 of 17 20 August 2014 at 9:23pm | IP Logged |
Magari per noi è una questione di abitudine, anche a me suona a dir poco spiacevole e sarei stato propenso alla tua stessa spiegazione.
Però dampingwire è madrelingua Italiano, stando almeno al suo profilo.
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Are there more words in Italian with GLI article in plural not beginning with SC, Z, X, PN, GN,PS and a A,E,I,O,U ??? |
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All S impure follow this rule. S impure are all the syllables formed by an S followed by a consonant, so ST, SP, SR, SM, SN, SB and so on.
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RadinaM Pentaglot Newbie Spain radinamatic.com Joined 3743 days ago 14 posts - 14 votes Speaks: Serbian*, Catalan, EnglishC2, ItalianC2, SpanishC2 Studies: Danish
| Message 16 of 17 20 August 2014 at 10:42pm | IP Logged |
Credo che Tristano si riferisca al poster originale, Gollum87, madrelingua Serbo... ;)
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