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Марк
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 Message 17 of 20
25 April 2015 at 10:44am | IP Logged 
tarvos wrote:
The French would probably stress half the names wrongly because of the Russian moving
stress... that would cause a lot of problems.

And the English stress Russian names wrongly even more often. In fact, Russian pronunciation rarely goes beyond the former Soviet Union.

Edited by Марк on 25 April 2015 at 11:09am

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tarvos
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 Message 18 of 20
25 April 2015 at 10:58am | IP Logged 
Марк wrote:
tarvos wrote:
The French would probably stress half the names wrongly
because of the Russian moving
stress... that would cause a lot of problems.

And the English stress Russian names wrongly even in a bigger portion of cases. In fact,
Russian pronunciation rarely goes beyond the former Soviet Union.


I am not sure whether the portion is bigger but it should be comparable. But that the
pronunciation is correct only in the former Soviet states is not surprising - that is
where Russian was spoken, after all ;)
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Medulin
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 Message 19 of 20
26 April 2015 at 8:38pm | IP Logged 
The ugliest pronunciation I've heard
is

ižmahčifõni for smartphone
(it is the way people in Rio pronounce it)

Brazilian people consider Slavic languages ugly
but they should pay more attention to the way they speak.

In my book, soundwise, Portuguese (either European or Brazilian) sounds more Slavic than Macedonian.

Edited by Medulin on 26 April 2015 at 8:42pm

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epictetus
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 Message 20 of 20
11 May 2015 at 6:45pm | IP Logged 
Easy examples for place names:

When speaking Spanish, I accidentally pronounced Canada in the English way to my Spanish teacher and
another time to a stranger and both corrected me immediately... Canadá (rather than stress on
the first 'a'). In Serbian, 'London' has a Serbianised version based on the River Thames for
historical reasons. Saying 'London' in English would be both confusing and pretentious (extra
pretentious points if you're an American saying it in the British manner!).

A third example is that when I'm speaking Spanish quickly (and especially when with someone who
speaks both English and Spanish), I'll pronounce English loan-words using Spanish sounds by mistake
as in ween-dos instead of windows if talking about which operating system my laptop is running.
Before self-correcting, I look for their reaction and sometimes correct myself in English in
passing before moving on with the conversation in an attempt to lure them into telling me how they'd
say it.

Great quiz show clip on Brits and the
acceptable pronunciation 'Paris' and 'sauna' among other things (about a minute in).

Edited by epictetus on 11 May 2015 at 6:45pm



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