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| Alphathon Groupie Scotland Joined 4182 days ago 60 posts - 104 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, Scottish Gaelic | Message 9 of 19 25 April 2015 at 4:29am | IP Logged | ||
I tend to agree, assuming robarb’s assessment of its prevalence is accurate. Wikipedia has guidelines about what should and should not have it’s own article. If Arguelles is the only notable person who discusses this then it probably doesn’t deserve its own article, at least not until the discussion of it gets beyond a certain level of detail. That doesn’t mean that it can’t be added to an existing article. I would say that you’re probably just as well adding it as a section of the polyglotism article. If it gets large enough it can always be split. Edited by Alphathon on 25 April 2015 at 4:31am 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6599 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 10 of 19 25 April 2015 at 4:33am | IP Logged | ||
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This sounds too much like the "original research" that shouldn't be put on wikipedia. I'm all for creating an article but I wouldn't want my work to be wasted.
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| Alphathon Groupie Scotland Joined 4182 days ago 60 posts - 104 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Scottish Gaelic | Message 11 of 19 25 April 2015 at 4:48am | IP Logged | ||
I don’t think this would count as original research (OR) (the rules for which are here). OR, on Wikipedia at least, is about the publication of ideas or opinions on Wikipedia as if Wikipedia were a journal etc. If they have already been published in some context (not necessarily an academic journal) then it doesn’t apply. It may fall under the rules about fringe theories though. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6599 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 12 of 19 25 April 2015 at 10:11am | IP Logged | ||
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I meant specifically an article that states anything other than Prof Argüelles' views on the topic. And if it's only his views, it should be in the article about him, right?
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| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7207 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 13 of 19 25 April 2015 at 10:55am | IP Logged | ||
Fringe theory does seem like a very good fit. Independent of Professor Arguelles, Allan Bloom, who has a much more complete Wikipedia article, cites compelling reasons behind his translation of Plato's Republic in the preface. He is not advocating Polyliteracy, only the important gaps in the existing English translations of that work. Bloom, as translator, wants to be as faithful as possible to the literal translation as possible, without interjecting a modern perspective on the work itself. He reserves that for an accompanying essay. The two goals seem similar in my head. Arguelles is very specialized in his approach on the learning of the foreign language aspect. He presents the "great books" part of his thought in various ways, including timelessness and appreciation. Bloom, in his preface to The Republic, like Arguelles, believes there is something fundamentally valueable in that early thought that may be not yet appreciated by readers of the earlier translations. The "fringe" part, and the chasm between the two, is Bloom did his best literal translation of Plato's Republic and Rousseau's Emile, books that stand on their own. Arguelles vision is really opening the door at a scholarly level for more "back to basics". Arguelles seems more fringe too because he adds the weight of learning the original tongue to the student or scholar's load. I.E., polyliteracy. Edited by luke on 25 April 2015 at 11:16am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| schoenewaelder Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5562 days ago 759 posts - 1197 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch | Message 14 of 19 25 April 2015 at 11:42pm | IP Logged | ||
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As I understand it, Wiki articles have to be based on published sources, i.e.
academic papers, books or newspapers. Blogs and youtube do not count. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Alphathon Groupie Scotland Joined 4182 days ago 60 posts - 104 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Scottish Gaelic | Message 15 of 19 26 April 2015 at 12:11am | IP Logged | ||
Yes and no. Generally they are not allowed, but blogs, YouTube etc can be used as sources if the content is by an established expert in the field in question. If, for example, I were to write a blog about something it would not be admissible as a source, but a similar blog post or a video of a lecture by Prof. Arguelles probably would be, assuming of course they were about his field of study, and that it can be verified that it is actually he who originated the content. What matters is the credibility and reliability, not the medium. The reason they are generally disallowed is that anyone can write a blog post, not that blogs are inherently unreliable. That said they are best avoided if an alternative third-party source is available. See this page. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| schoenewaelder Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5562 days ago 759 posts - 1197 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch | Message 16 of 19 26 April 2015 at 1:03am | IP Logged | ||
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