is8952001 Newbie United States Joined 5853 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 1 of 8 21 November 2008 at 3:34pm | IP Logged |
I already know spoken arabic very well, but need improve my ability to move effortlessly within past, present, and
future tense.
if you have used pimsleur (specifically the Eastern Arabic II, but really any Part II) would you suggest it as a viable
method for accomplishing this? if not, what would you suggest.
Thanks in advance.
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Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6665 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin
| Message 2 of 8 22 November 2008 at 5:26am | IP Logged |
If you already know Arabic very well I think that you would find Pimspleur too easy and incredibly dull.
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dmg Diglot Senior Member Canada dgryski.blogspot.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 7017 days ago 555 posts - 605 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Dutch, Esperanto
| Message 3 of 8 22 November 2008 at 12:28pm | IP Logged |
Pimsleur is great for getting small talk to the tip of your tongue instinctively. However, if you only need to drill the difference tenses, you'll probably want an FSI-type course. Unfortunately, the courses on FSI Arabic don't seem to have drills for Levantine Arabic. The Saudi course will have drills, but I don't know enough about Arabic to know if that would be effective or hurtful. The Defense Language Institute Modern Standard Arabic Basic course is available on ThePirateBay, and that will probably also have tense transformation drills.
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is8952001 Newbie United States Joined 5853 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 4 of 8 22 November 2008 at 7:52pm | IP Logged |
thanks, i just checked out the saudi fsi stuff. are there accompanying readings?
also, i was looking on the michel thomas thread, and it seemed like it would be similar. does anyone have
experience with mt advanced arabic?
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dmg Diglot Senior Member Canada dgryski.blogspot.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 7017 days ago 555 posts - 605 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Dutch, Esperanto
| Message 5 of 8 22 November 2008 at 8:53pm | IP Logged |
is8952001 wrote:
thanks, i just checked out the saudi fsi stuff. are there accompanying readings? |
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DemiPuppet has links to Modern Written Arabic Volume 1 in the FSI files updates thread.
There's a link to volume 2 and volume 3 (on ERIC) in this FSI files corrections post. I don't know if that's what you're looking for, though.
Edited by dmg on 22 November 2008 at 8:59pm
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brian00321 Senior Member United States Joined 6604 days ago 143 posts - 148 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German
| Message 6 of 8 23 November 2008 at 10:09am | IP Logged |
For automaticity with tenses in spoken Eastern Arabic you should check out "Eastern Arabic"
by Frank A. Rice and Majed F. Sa'id. I bought the book (downloaded the audio and drills off of
uz-translations) and the course is outlined identically to FSI. I haven't gotten around to using
it yet (probably not for another year or so) but the content looks really good and should give
you a solid grounding in the language, definitely a level 2 in the ILR scale. With some outside
sources you might be able to achieve level 3.
http://www.press.georgetown.edu/detail.html?id=9781589010529
Edited by brian00321 on 23 November 2008 at 10:14am
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is8952001 Newbie United States Joined 5853 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 7 of 8 23 November 2008 at 10:30am | IP Logged |
brian, i used that book in class last year and it is the real deal. pretty good stuff. i really just need drills because
part of being a level three is to tell a story going in and out of situations using different tenses. something like,
so then the phone IS ringing, so he lookED at it and said, "I WILL answer it."
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kengibson2001 Newbie United States Joined 6282 days ago 28 posts - 28 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German
| Message 8 of 8 22 December 2008 at 4:10am | IP Logged |
I am learning German and every now and then I will try the level 3 part of Pimsleur and even though I found it very hard when I was learning it, after 10 lessons of FSI I find it way too easy.
Pimsleur didnt really let me tell the difference between eine and einer and I went for my entire time during think it is.
Ich bin in eine Bank instead of Ich bin in einer Bank
It is also pretty weak on Tenses. I really didn't understand why some German articles took den, dem, der, etc etc
Edited by kengibson2001 on 22 December 2008 at 4:12am
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