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| delectric Diglot Senior Member China Joined 7187 days ago 608 posts - 733 votes  Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: German | Message 1 of 10 04 December 2008 at 8:48pm | IP Logged | ||
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I had another dable at French a while ago as I wanted to help a Friend learn the language. I cut up the audio of Pimsleur French and started a file in Supermemo. Nothing fancy really just stuff like...
Q: In French how to you say 'excuse me'? A: Listen to audio file #1 Q: What does #1 mean? A: Excuse me. The audio wasn't even embedded within supermemo as I was using Supermemo for pocket pc and it was just easier to put the audio into an MP3 player for when i was on the move. The person I was teaching French picked up the language much faster than just using Pimsleur alone. So I thought what about starting a project on something that we could share? A great language course with audio and written material. A language course that is free and yet comprehensive. Cutting up audio and even converting pdf's to text is very simple. We could put all the grammar, writing and audio from an FSI/DLI into a supermemo file. I would imagine that supermemoing a complete FSI course could possibly make FSI the very best language course available. We could find somewhere to share out the work and everyone could take the responsibility for cutting up the audio, converting the pda's into text files and creating the queastions. At the helm we would need an editor (or editors) to make sure that the work completed was up to a standard (i.e the audio and the question format etc). We should really start by picking a language everyone wants to learn like French or Spanish (or even German). What do you all think? I don't know why this hasn't been done yet. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| furrykef Senior Member United States furrykef.com/ Joined 6478 days ago 681 posts - 862 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Japanese, Latin, Italian | Message 2 of 10 05 December 2008 at 2:20am | IP Logged | ||
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To be honest, I think encouraging others to use SuperMemo is a bad idea. It is the worst program I have ever used and it's taking me a looong time to complete the transition to Anki, which is not only a better program, but free, too. So I think it'd be a good idea, but I very strongly recommend doing it for Mnemosyne or Anki instead of SuperMemo.
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| delectric Diglot Senior Member China Joined 7187 days ago 608 posts - 733 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: German | Message 3 of 10 05 December 2008 at 3:09am | IP Logged | ||
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Agreed. True supermemo has many flaws. Though the basic version for the pocket PC is just fine.
I agree let's make the files for Anki and any other program too. To import a file into Supermemo all you have to do is use a basic notepad and then use; Q: This is the question. A: This is the answer. I would think other programs also have a way to write questions and answers from a notepad and so it would be pretty easy to convert question and answers so that they could be used by most flashcard programs. So, really we should keep all the files text only, we shouldn't use html or put in audio or pictures. When using audio or pictures we just need the text in the answer or question file to point to that file which can then be played using any audio player or picture viewer. For my pocket pc I use TCMP whick can be used to play audio, video and view pictures. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6017 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 4 of 10 05 December 2008 at 9:30am | IP Logged | ||
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While I agree this would be quite useful, it seems like a halfway-house to me, but it has got me thinking.
The problem with just dumping all the questions into [insert name of chosen SRS software here] is that it assumes the student has done the whole course. Now if one of the open source SRS programs could be altered to introduce the new rules as it goes... But maybe the way to deal with this is to include different lessons as different lists, and load them all up as you progress.... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| delectric Diglot Senior Member China Joined 7187 days ago 608 posts - 733 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: German | Message 5 of 10 05 December 2008 at 10:24am | IP Logged | ||
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Of course each lesson could be in a different file. The student could decide to add the lesson to the existing file or open them as a new file.
It doesn't presume at all that the student has done the whole course at all! But it does mean that the student won't be repeating the stuff he remembers and therefore finds easy and of course spends more time on the the stuff that has not been memorized. Of course the questions and audio would come in the same sequence as presented in the FSI course itself， most of them build on the previous lesson so each question would only build on previous material learnt. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| TheElvenLord Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6086 days ago 915 posts - 927 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Cornish, English* Studies: Spanish, French, German Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 6 of 10 05 December 2008 at 10:49am | IP Logged | ||
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This seems like a good idea.
I used Audioflashcards (of sorts) when I was learning Welsh. I did a little experimenting. I created a Windows Movie Player movie, and included pictures and audio. I played the audio (TL), and also the word came up written on the screen. I had 4 seconds to translate it before the answer flashed up. This would solve the probelms of: Compatability - not all of us have iPhones or PDA's, but I am sure we all have mobiles or iPods which are compatable with this. Order - The words can be shown in a certain order. But I am working on a system to jumble them if the learner wants to. Division - One movie could be one lesson Audio and/or reading - You would hear the audio, and can translate from that, or you can do it from reading. For those of you who are wondering, this could be easily transferred to do NL>TL. TEL 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| delectric Diglot Senior Member China Joined 7187 days ago 608 posts - 733 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: German | Message 7 of 10 06 December 2008 at 2:54am | IP Logged | ||
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The thing is i'm not just thinking about just putting the words into Supermemo. I think it would be best to present the information from FSI just as it is in the FSI course itself.
Even the Grammar information could be put into a question such as; 'read the sentence/paragraph below (in the answer section) do you understand it? Maybe when I've got time i can convert a part of FSI to show you what i mean. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6017 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 8 of 10 06 December 2008 at 12:51pm | IP Logged | ||
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