MegatronFilm Triglot Senior Member United States peligrosa.tumblr.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5936 days ago 130 posts - 275 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 1 of 7 13 August 2009 at 6:10am | IP Logged |
I actively use Spanish with my Spanish speaking friends after living in Peru and Argentina for a few months. Its
great that I have many friends who speak Spanish, but I have no friends who speak french.
I am determined to learn french fluently because it would be very useful for my line of work. I have met many
french people while in south america who can speak Spanish brilliantly. Obviously its an easy language for them.
But, for someone who has recently gained basic fluency in Spanish, is it possible to learn french rapidly from self
study? Or, like the way I learned Spanish, must I move to France or Canada for a bit?
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Aeroflot Senior Member United States Joined 5600 days ago 102 posts - 115 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 2 of 7 14 August 2009 at 5:44am | IP Logged |
I just started French recently, but I can tell you that by you knowing Spanish and English, you're already halfway there. Many English words come from French, so you'll know quite a few French words already; and Spanish helps you with grammar and syntax. To give you an example, here's a sentence I learned yesterday:
Ils sont à la mairie pour demandez une nouvelle carte d'identité pour leur fils.
They are at the town hall for to demand a new card of identity for their son.
Ils isn't too far off from Ellos
Sont is close to Son
À la is the same in Spanish
Pour is close to Por
Demandez is close to Demand
Une is one letter off from Una
Nouvelle sounds similar to the word New
Carte is one letter off of Carta and two from Card
De is like Spanish De
Identité is quite obviously English
As long as you can identify these similarities, then you should learn quickly.
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ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6140 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian
| Message 3 of 7 15 August 2009 at 1:21am | IP Logged |
I did just this. After already speaking Spanish for many years, I began to learn French on my own. I found it to be exceedingly easy because of both my knowledge of French and English. What did I do? I primarily used random websites at first and got a feel for the rudiments of how it fit together. Then I learned how to conjugate verbs in the present and finally bought myself a copy of Ultimate French Beginner-Intermediate. The book is excellent and may be used with or without the recordings, depending on your needs, and also on your budget (slashing the recordings brings the price down from around $60-70 to around $10-15).
Anyways, it's possible and has been done. Apparently its much easier to go the other way around, but I found it just fine going from Spanish to French.
Bonne chance avec vos études de la langue française!
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MegatronFilm Triglot Senior Member United States peligrosa.tumblr.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5936 days ago 130 posts - 275 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 4 of 7 17 August 2009 at 11:12pm | IP Logged |
Aeroflot, thanks for showing me some examples.
Thank you ellasevia. I'm going to look that book up.
How about the pronunciation? I'm kind of intimidated by it.
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ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6140 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian
| Message 5 of 7 17 August 2009 at 11:19pm | IP Logged |
MegatronFilm wrote:
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The pronunciation sorta just came naturally to me. I'm good with pronunciations, generally speaking. Just listen to some French, somehow. It's really not as difficult as it seems. Just practice, practice, practice, and observe the patterns with the spelling and it'll become second nature to you. My friends are amazed that French spelling actually makes sense to me, which is good, because (I now take advanced French at school) I don't get tons of points taken off for spelling. You could always get the recordings for the Ultimate French book, but I still think that's a little too pricey. Perhaps you could see if your local library has a copy of a Pimsleur French course and use that. It's helped my Russian pronunciation a lot.
Sorry I can't be of more help!
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Aeroflot Senior Member United States Joined 5600 days ago 102 posts - 115 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 6 of 7 18 August 2009 at 1:30am | IP Logged |
MegatronFilm wrote:
Aeroflot, thanks for showing me some examples.
Thank you ellasevia. I'm going to look that book up.
How about the pronunciation? I'm kind of intimidated by it. |
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The pronunciation isn't as difficult as it may seem. There might be a lot of silent letters, but these silent letters are standardized so that way you're not wondering if VOIX is pronounced like vwah or vwocks. Haha, that'd be funny -- vwocks! And the coolest thing about French is that for the most part words sound the same whether plural or singular. ENFANT and ENFANTS with an S are pronounced the same.
Just don't think of the French alphabet being the same as English. Just because you see a symbol that looks like a T, that doesn't mean it's a T ;) For instance, don't think of the -ant in AVANT is the same sound as the ant insect. Pretend that those three letters are just one big letter, and so remember that when you see the letter ANT that you say -ohn, because that's how that particular letter is pronounced.
I hope you understand where I was going with that. That's just the method I used when I was learning another language using the Roman alphabet but didn't sound at all like English.
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ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6140 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian
| Message 7 of 7 18 August 2009 at 1:34am | IP Logged |
Yes, or "eaux" = "o"...
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