Toufik18 Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Algeria Joined 5742 days ago 188 posts - 202 votes Speaks: Arabic (Written)*, Arabic (classical)*, French, English
| Message 1 of 6 17 August 2009 at 10:42pm | IP Logged |
Hello :)
I have an enquiry about north African (Algerian) French dialect, French is reknown by the hard pronounciation of the letter R, but some elderly generations in Algeria speak French perfectly and fluently, but with an R prounounced like Spanish (not rolled though). I find it quite easier to speak that way :)
Does this thng exists in other French speaking countries?
Thank you
Edited by Toufik18 on 17 August 2009 at 10:43pm
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Aeroflot Senior Member United States Joined 5600 days ago 102 posts - 115 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 2 of 6 17 August 2009 at 11:00pm | IP Logged |
Toufik18 wrote:
Hello :)
I have an enquiry about north African (Algerian) French dialect, French is reknown by the hard pronounciation of the letter R, but some elderly generations in Algeria speak French perfectly and fluently, but with an R prounounced like Spanish (not rolled though). I find it quite easier to speak that way :)
Does this thng exists in other French speaking countries?
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Actually I was just looking this up, except I wanted info on Tunisia. According to a couple sites, the pronunciation of French depends upon the local native languages, and there are several countries in Africa that roll their Rs. For sure, Morocco is one of those countries, and I'm going to guess Tunisia too since rolled Rs are part of the French dialect called Maghreb. And also I've read that in some places in Canada the Francophones roll their Rs.
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guilon Pentaglot Senior Member Spain Joined 6190 days ago 226 posts - 229 votes Speaks: Spanish*, PortugueseC2, FrenchC2, Italian, English
| Message 3 of 6 18 August 2009 at 1:25am | IP Logged |
I have heard peasants roll their Rs throughout rural France itself.
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Aeroflot Senior Member United States Joined 5600 days ago 102 posts - 115 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 4 of 6 18 August 2009 at 1:32am | IP Logged |
Yeah, that's what one article said.
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Risch Groupie United States Joined 5587 days ago 49 posts - 71 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 5 of 6 18 August 2009 at 5:23am | IP Logged |
Okay, I'm not expert, but what I have read that the rolled R prevailed in many dialects
of French before more modern times and domination of the Paris/Loire accents. I can't
speak for Québec, but I know that the R is rolled in Cajun French. Apparently the accent
came from central provinces like Anjou and Maine.
Have a listen to Zachary Richard (Cajun singer):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpY-SKIjReI
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William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6270 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French
| Message 6 of 6 18 August 2009 at 11:42am | IP Logged |
It may be a feature of southern French pronunciation.
To expand on this a bit, the local characters in the 1970s French film Lacombe Lucien, set in the rural French south during WW2, seem to roll their Rs, although I would have to see it again to be sure. I am more used to Parisian or Belgian French, and the French of this film was a little hard for me to follow.
Edited by William Camden on 18 August 2009 at 12:08pm
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