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| Zhuangzi Nonaglot Language Program Publisher Senior Member Canada lingq.com Joined 7034 days ago 646 posts - 688 votes  Speaks: English*, French, Japanese, Swedish, Mandarin, Cantonese, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian | Message 49 of 69 15 August 2007 at 6:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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fredmf,
You make a good point. I am sure the success rate at FSI is greater. On the other hand, as a former Canadian Diplomat and language trainee, I have seen many people come out of these language courses for foreign service personnel and then not really use their language in work, other than for polite chit chat at cocktail parties. Somehow, for many, these courses do not create the confidence to really dive in.I believe an excessive concern about grammar and "perfect" performance at an early stage can make the language seem an artificial academic task, rather than a simple tool for communication and enjoyment. Here is what we ask our learners to recite to themselves regularly at The Linguist (now LingQ) when learning English. Links to the English and Russian versions are provided below. We intend to translate this into other languages. http://thelinguist.lingq.com/library/item/12131/ http://thelinguist.lingq.com/library/item/21724/ Edited by Zhuangzi on 15 August 2007 at 6:38pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| fredmf Diglot Groupie United States Joined 6469 days ago 43 posts - 51 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish | Message 50 of 69 15 August 2007 at 8:33pm | IP Logged | ||
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Yes, that seems plausible (i.e. only using the language for chit chat, being
timid about using it elsewhere)...I guess instilling confidence to actually use what you've learned is much more an art than it is a science. Thanks for the links...I could really afford to have a mantra like that, especially as I've just gotten to the difficult parts of the "French With Ease" program I'm studying. Good things to be keeping in mind. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Zhuangzi Nonaglot Language Program Publisher Senior Member Canada lingq.com Joined 7034 days ago 646 posts - 688 votes Speaks: English*, French, Japanese, Swedish, Mandarin, Cantonese, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian | Message 51 of 69 15 August 2007 at 9:33pm | IP Logged | ||
What can I say...go and get yourself a free account at LingQ or at least access the free audio and text content for French at the www.thelinguist.com library. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| fredmf Diglot Groupie United States Joined 6469 days ago 43 posts - 51 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish | Message 52 of 69 15 August 2007 at 9:51pm | IP Logged | ||
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Um, yeah, thanks, that's where I suspected this was leading. I do not share
or agree with your criticisms of Assimil -- I'm quite happy with it, and if there's any academic-type pressure, it's coming from me, not from anything I'm using. That was what I meant. But I'll keep your sources in mind if I'm in the market. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Zhuangzi Nonaglot Language Program Publisher Senior Member Canada lingq.com Joined 7034 days ago 646 posts - 688 votes Speaks: English*, French, Japanese, Swedish, Mandarin, Cantonese, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian | Message 53 of 69 16 August 2007 at 12:03am | IP Logged | ||
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Do not suspect so much and life will be easier for you.
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| audiolang Diglot Senior Member Romania Joined 6326 days ago 108 posts - 109 votes 2 sounds Speaks: Romanian*, English | Message 54 of 69 16 August 2007 at 12:16am | IP Logged | ||
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Yes,suspicious minds eventually lead to suspicious deeds.Need we say more?
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| Zhuangzi Nonaglot Language Program Publisher Senior Member Canada lingq.com Joined 7034 days ago 646 posts - 688 votes Speaks: English*, French, Japanese, Swedish, Mandarin, Cantonese, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian | Message 55 of 69 16 August 2007 at 1:03am | IP Logged | ||
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audiolang
I like your tone. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| MeshGearFox Senior Member United States Joined 6701 days ago 316 posts - 344 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Russian | Message 56 of 69 16 August 2007 at 7:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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Zhuangzi, while I respect your accomplishments as a linguist and I'm sure you have the best in mind, it's really not necessary to advertise LingQ every other post.
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