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Norvasc
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21 November 2008 at 6:25pm | IP Logged 
I have mentioned elsewhere that I have been learning French using the assimil method for a couple of years now. I recently purchased Hindi sans peine and wanted to use it to brush up my Hindi language skills. However I was somewhat disappointed as it wanted you to learn the hindi alphabet (dialect) and then use that in the first and the second phase of the assimil method. I would prefer to read hindi using the English alphabet



Does anyone know of a Hindi course that gives you short stories and with its hindi translation to memorise similar to the assimil french and uses the English alphabet method.

norvasc
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TheElvenLord
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22 November 2008 at 6:13am | IP Logged 
Why not learn the script, and then transcribe it?

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Juan M.
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22 November 2008 at 5:54pm | IP Logged 
I'd be very disappointed if a language course didn't use its proper script. This is not a very helpful reply to your question though. :-) Maybe to suggest that to learn a language without its writing system is pointless.
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Norvasc
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23 November 2008 at 2:55pm | IP Logged 
I have watched many bollywood movies over the year and understand Hindi well. However I am unable to speak it and only lately wanted to improve my speaking skills. I do not wish to learn the script due to the obvious reason of not having enough time. I am indian in orgin and my mother tongue is Gujarati.

Those who speak Gujarati will attest to the fact that it is a very fast language and if you were sitting on one of our sunday dinners you would enjoy listening to the flow of words. Those of us who speak Gujarati well also use clicks with the tongue instead of some words. I am unaware of any other language that I have come across that uses such sounds. I also speak another language called Kutchi. This is spoken by very few people and is not a very popular language at all.

My point is that I do not know the Gujarati Script. Also my mother tells me that Kutchi is the only language that cannot be written as there are no books or stories or even the version of the holy quran in that language. If I want to learn to speak Hindi but not learn the script then I should be allowed to do so. There is no truth in that one will compromise learning the culture if one does not learn the script.

Hindi is probably on the top five languages spoken in the world. There must be some courses available that I can use that does not require you to learn the script. Any help? Please?
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Akatsuki
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23 November 2008 at 3:25pm | IP Logged 
Teach Yourself Hindi does teach the script and offers the readers the possibility to read the dialogs and the like, in the Devanagari script and in the Latin alphabet. And the course isn't so bad in my opinion, so you might give it a try.
Hope this helps.
Good Luck.

Edited by Akatsuki on 23 November 2008 at 3:25pm

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23 November 2008 at 4:27pm | IP Logged 
Norvasc wrote:
I have watched many bollywood movies over the year and understand Hindi well. However I am unable to speak it and only lately wanted to improve my speaking skills. I do not wish to learn the script due to the obvious reason of not having enough time. I am indian in orgin and my mother tongue is Gujarati.

Those who speak Gujarati will attest to the fact that it is a very fast language and if you were sitting on one of our sunday dinners you would enjoy listening to the flow of words. Those of us who speak Gujarati well also use clicks with the tongue instead of some words. I am unaware of any other language that I have come across that uses such sounds. I also speak another language called Kutchi. This is spoken by very few people and is not a very popular language at all.

My point is that I do not know the Gujarati Script. Also my mother tells me that Kutchi is the only language that cannot be written as there are no books or stories or even the version of the holy quran in that language. If I want to learn to speak Hindi but not learn the script then I should be allowed to do so. There is no truth in that one will compromise learning the culture if one does not learn the script.

Hindi is probably on the top five languages spoken in the world. There must be some courses available that I can use that does not require you to learn the script. Any help? Please?


I'd argue that it's a false saving of time to not learn the script, especially if you want to improve your formal command of the language.

Are you allowed to learn Hindi without learning the script? Absolutely. Is it a good idea, given that you want to speak it better, to not learn the script? In a word, no. If you ever want to read extensively in Hindi, or read most things written about its grammar, knowing the script would help you a lot.

As for clicks - quite a few languages have them, although mainly in Africa. Xhosa is one example.

As for Kutchi - all languages could be written, even if they currently aren't. Kutchi is written, and has about 866,000 speakers - not so few. That said, you're right that there doesn't seem to be much written in it.

As for Hindi: it's second in number of native speakers, behind only Mandarin.

I've personally tried not learning the scripts of various languages; I've found not learning them to be, by far, a larger waste of time than learning them. Given that Sanskrit, Hindi, and Gujarati all have a history of being written with Devanagari (admittedly, with minor variations), in your shoes, I'd just devote a little time to learning it, and then use it. Being able to read your mother tongue would be a really nice thing, I think.



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