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| Dario8015 Diglot Newbie United Kingdom Joined 6001 days ago 37 posts - 43 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Russian, Swedish | Message 1 of 11 19 July 2009 at 6:35pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I've only recently started to learn Spanish and I've noticed that the Spanish 'v' is sometimes pronounced as an English 'v' and sometimes as a 'b' - even by the same speaker....does anyone know if this is a regional phenomenon or is it just down to individual choice?
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| minus273 Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5765 days ago 288 posts - 346 votes  Speaks: Mandarin*, EnglishC2, French Studies: Ancient Greek, Tibetan | Message 2 of 11 19 July 2009 at 6:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
STFG
'v' and 'b' are pronounced identically as /b/. But /b/ sounds like an English /b/ in some environments, and like an English /v/ (not exactly the same) in other. Edited by minus273 on 19 July 2009 at 6:49pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| TheBiscuit Tetraglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 5923 days ago 532 posts - 619 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Italian Studies: German, Croatian | Message 3 of 11 20 July 2009 at 6:42pm | IP Logged | |||||
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In Mexico it's hard to distinguish between the two which leads to lots of spelling errors by natives such as: tubo, recivir, devo etc. You can see them in the street everywhere.
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 Hencke Tetraglot Moderator Spain Joined 6894 days ago 2340 posts - 2444 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Finnish, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: Mandarin Personal Language Map | Message 4 of 11 20 July 2009 at 10:15pm | IP Logged | |||||
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It's not only in Mexico. They are not distinguished anywhere, except for some isolated cases, such as second generation immigrants, or in border areas, where the influence from English is messing up the pronunciation.
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| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6011 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 5 of 11 20 July 2009 at 10:46pm | IP Logged | |||||
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The V-like sound usually occurs between two vowels. It's not really a V in most accents, it's more like trying to say B without actually closing the mouth. It's an "unfinished B", if you will.
The B sound usually occurs at the end of a word or phrase, or where the letter is next to another consonant. The other consonant (or the lack of vowel) gives you extra room to finish the B sound, so you close your mouth completely and say B. Edit: I should have initially said this distinction only occurs in certain accents. Some accents are universally "b-like" and others universally "v-like". Edited by Cainntear on 21 July 2009 at 2:01pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6011 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 6 of 11 20 July 2009 at 10:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
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| charlmartell Super Polyglot Senior Member Portugal Joined 6244 days ago 286 posts - 298 votes Speaks: French, English, German, Luxembourgish*, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, Dutch, Italian, Latin, Ancient Greek Studies: Mandarin, Japanese | Message 7 of 11 20 July 2009 at 11:52pm | IP Logged | |||||
How do you know? Via the same source that informed you that most Latin American accents sound just like Andalusian?
Could you give us an example of a word or phrase ending in a B sound? 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| minus273 Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5765 days ago 288 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, EnglishC2, French Studies: Ancient Greek, Tibetan | Message 8 of 11 21 July 2009 at 12:22am | IP Logged | |||||
It is rude... And STFW would be more idiomatic. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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