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| Gamauyun Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5648 days ago 26 posts - 36 votes Speaks: English*, Russian Studies: Romanian, German | Message 1 of 7 23 July 2009 at 7:03pm | IP Logged |
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I apologize if this is the wrong place to post this. I hoped that someone could review my accent in Norwegian. I've been studying Norwegian on and off for probably a little over a year now, but since I've had very little opportunity to really use it with native speakers, I probably have given inadequate attention to pronunciation, especialy with the pitch-accent. I really apologise if this sounds completely butchered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2muvjB54gNU I picked a random article from dagbladet.no. Here is a link to the original article. I'm sorry that it isn't very clear in the video. http://www.dagbladet.no/2009/07/23/nyheter/klima/miljo/73253 32/ Tusen Takk Edited by Gamauyun on 24 July 2009 at 11:33am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| mrhenrik Triglot Moderator Norway Joined 6079 days ago 482 posts - 658 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, English, French Personal Language Map | Message 2 of 7 23 July 2009 at 7:16pm | IP Logged |
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I'm at work now so I don't have access to YouTube, but I'll be sure to watch the video and let you know what I think as soon as I get home.
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| Gamauyun Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5648 days ago 26 posts - 36 votes Speaks: English*, Russian Studies: Romanian, German | Message 3 of 7 23 July 2009 at 7:51pm | IP Logged |
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Thanks a lot.
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| Lizzern Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5909 days ago 791 posts - 1053 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 4 of 7 23 July 2009 at 8:33pm | IP Logged |
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That was pretty good, well done!
A couple of points. - Not all consonants are pronounced, so 'holder' is pronounced 'holler' and you can only know this by hearing the word and taking note... It'll come with input. Sorry our spelling doesn't make sense :-) - You might want to work on O vs U, and the variants of each of those (because they both, generally speaking, have two different possible pronunciations, one from each overlaps with the other more or less), and the different ways they are used in different words. I know it can be confusing that O is sometimes pronounced as an O and sometimes as an Å, and that U is sometimes pronounced as an O (happens more in some dialects that others), but the more you listen to spoken Norwegian the more you'll be able to just know these things. - I know Norwegian tones can be tricky, so just try to learn them as part of the word. It's kinda the same principle as stress, or at least that's how I feel about it, but it's an additional kind of stress that is part of how the word is supposed to sound. I didn't actually know we had tones until university, I guess we all kind of figure that's just 'how you say things' and that's all... You stress the right syllables, so work on the next layer, so that it doesn't sound as flat (every foreigner does this, except maybe the Chinese, so don't fret). If you can get the tones spot on right it will impress people endlessly. Nice work :-) Liz Edited by Lizzern on 23 July 2009 at 8:34pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| mrhenrik Triglot Moderator Norway Joined 6079 days ago 482 posts - 658 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, French Personal Language Map | Message 5 of 7 23 July 2009 at 10:28pm | IP Logged |
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Sounds good. ^^
I'll write down points here as I go through the video. First, what I noticed (and this seems to be a classic "trap" for learners of Norwegian) is your "y"'s. They seem to have a "u"-sound to them, while I would assume it should be closer to an "i". I've noticed on several occasions here I find it slightly difficult to dissect my own language ;p WWF - we tend to be quite liberal on our "W"'s in acronyms, they are usually just pronounced "V". Laziness, I'd assume. I would pronounce the acronym "ve ve eff". Also the O vs. U as Lizzern pointed out, I apologize for our language being a complete jerk when it comes to this. Your "o" in for instance "karbonet" sounded more like "karbunet". This is nitpicking of course but I'd assume that's what you want. :) "ld" as in "inneholder" is usually pronounced "ll". This will vary with what dialect you're speaking, but the "regular" Oslo dialect would generally say "inneholler". Overall it was very good though and I would have no problem having a regular conversation with you in Norwegian, it's all very understandable and I would say you sound significantly less American than what I would expect from someone having studied for a year only. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| couragepiece93 Groupie United States Joined 5768 days ago 77 posts - 78 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian, Latin | Message 6 of 7 23 July 2009 at 11:14pm | IP Logged |
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I'm jealous, I can't speak half that well, lol.
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| Gamauyun Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5648 days ago 26 posts - 36 votes Speaks: English*, Russian Studies: Romanian, German | Message 7 of 7 24 July 2009 at 12:23pm | IP Logged |
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Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate it :)
I apologize about 'holde'. There are a number of words were I seem to forget to not pronounce the the D's. It sounds like I have a similiar problem to the one Courage described in this thread. I also really can't distinguish the difference between, for example, 'hus' and 'hos', very well. I guess it's just something that I need to pick up from listening. I know it varies by dialect, but is there a regular pattern to tone, like there is with stress? I've sort of gotten the impression that words that are polysyllabic in their dictionary form usualy have a rising intonation, while monosyllabic words have a falling one. But I imagine this is probably oversimplified, or just wrong. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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