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gaa1gaa1 Newbie China Joined 5614 days ago 30 posts - 39 votes Speaks: Mandarin*
| Message 9 of 11 15 July 2009 at 2:57pm | IP Logged |
Actually Taiwanese (language) is a political appellation which purposely makes a clear distinction between Taiwan and southern Fukien Province of China. but in linguistics field, it must be a wrong name.
Taiwanese (language) should be called Bân-lâm-gú (southern Fukien dialect), or Min-nan-yu (Mandarin), it was derived from the dialect of Fukien Province, such as Chôan-chiu (Mandarin: Quan-zhou), Chiang-chiu (Mandarin: Zhang-zhou), and Ē-mn̂g (Mandarin: Xia-men), especially Taiwanese is almost the same as Ē-mn̂g style. If I call "English" as "Americanish", what do you think about it, you can call it British English, or American English, but you can't directly call it "Americanish" (language), and it's not English any more? Taiwanese can be called Taiwan Minnanese, and then it still differs from mainland Minanese in political field.
Mandarin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Min_Nan
Minnanese (Bân-lâm-gú): http://zh-min-nan.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A2n-l%C3%A2m-g%C3% BA
Edited by gaa1gaa1 on 15 July 2009 at 3:07pm
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| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6011 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 10 of 11 15 July 2009 at 3:31pm | IP Logged |
Did you need to resurrect a two-year-old thread in order to voice your political opinions? You could equally claim that it is wrong to call Moldovan a language rather than a dialect of Rumanian, or that it is wrong to call Danish, Swedish and Norwegian languages.
The long and the short of it is that a language is whatever the people who speak it want it to be. If the people of Tiawan want to call what they speak "Taiwanese", that's their choice and there's nothing that you or I can do about it.
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| null Groupie China Joined 6125 days ago 76 posts - 82 votes Speaks: Mandarin*
| Message 11 of 11 16 July 2009 at 4:32am | IP Logged |
The problem is, some hakka syllables dont have a written form at all...
And I feel so sorry for taiwan's independence, they had a kick-china-ass president, but all they have for now, is a kiss-china-ass governor.
Edited by null on 16 July 2009 at 4:33am
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