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Marlowe
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 Message 17 of 20
18 June 2009 at 12:31am | IP Logged 
cordelia0507 wrote:
Well, I didn't know that "no-one speaks Bokmål" I thought it was the preferred way of writing Norwegian for most Norwegians! It is certainly more easy to understand than Nynorsk! It sounds like Norwegian to me??!!


Well, what I meant was that Bokmål is only written! :) No one speaks Bokmål, simply because it's only called Bokmål when it's written down.

That may come across as slightly pedantic, but it's actually a fairly important distinction. Even Standard Eastern Norwegian has peculiarities that keeps it from being a spoken version of Bokmål.
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 Message 18 of 20
18 June 2009 at 11:28am | IP Logged 
Personally I prefer Nynorsk because it is more different from written Danish than Bokmål, - but Bokmål is almost the only kind of Norwegian you see in the media, to the extent that Nynorsk has become something authors of fiction may choose as a way to show their linguistical nonconformity.

I have two Norwegian TV programs through cable, and I have also spoken to a fair number of Norwegians, and there are certainly differences in the way people speak, but not to the extent that I have problems understanding them (last time that happened was in the late 60s). The really extreme dialect speakers may be out there somewhere, but probably they remain extreme because they have little contact with the outside world. If you meet them (and if they don't switch into a more normalized language form) then you may congratulate yourself, because you have met a member of a vanishing tribe.

In Denmark the dialects do exist, and I know some elderly people who actually speak them, but even here I doubt that 'monolingual' dialect speakers will survive the next few decades. Instead we will get a situation where sociolects and degree of English interference is more important than any of the classical old dialects.


Edited by Iversen on 18 June 2009 at 1:26pm

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cordelia0507
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 Message 19 of 20
18 June 2009 at 1:58pm | IP Logged 
A friend of mine met her father for the first time when she was 18. He was from Greenland but he had been in prison near Copenhagen for a very long time.

She had grown up in Sweden and the US and could speak Danish because her mother is Danish.

But when she met her father she didn't understand what he was saying at all, and she was really upset because she had wanted to ask him lots of things. Instead they could barely hold up a conversation. I am not sure if it was because his Greenland background (but he had lived a long time in mainland Denmark) or perhaps he spoke a lot of slang or had picked up some local dialect that my friend didn't understand.
But it's an extreme example of communication problems between Swedes and Danes.

Quite a sad story. She was never able to get her questions answered and he died shortly after leaving prison.
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 Message 20 of 20
08 July 2009 at 10:19pm | IP Logged 
here you are.

http://www1.nrk.no/nett-tv/prosjekt/229



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