ExtraLean Triglot Senior Member France languagelearners.myf Joined 5997 days ago 897 posts - 880 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: German
| Message 2 of 6 09 July 2009 at 6:25pm | IP Logged |
Je le trouve beaucoup plus impressionnant quand les étrangers parlent anglais avec l'accent RP que avec l'accent "américan standard". Si t'as l'envie de parler anglais avec un accent que n'est pas Australien, je dirais que RP est le meilleur choix que tu peux prendre. En plus, étant donné que tu habites en France, il est beaucoup plus facile d'aller visiter l'Angleterre que l'Amérique et donc beaucoup moins cher et tu vas encontrer plus de gens qui parle l'anglais d'Angleterre que des americans...
I reckon RP is more impressive when I hear foreigners speaking English with that accent than the american on. If you don't want to speak English Australian, then I'd say go with RP. It's easier and cheaper to get to england than to america as well. Thus easier to meet and speak with the English, than the Yanks.
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chloem14 Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5693 days ago 21 posts - 23 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, Latin
| Message 3 of 6 10 July 2009 at 12:41am | IP Logged |
Actually, personally I would find a true RP accent a little strange - despite living in the home counties all my life, the only real time I hear one is on old BBC footage, and to hear someone speaking it would feel very anachranistic to me. Even the upper classes (Old Etonians for example) seem to speak a greatly toned down version nowadays, and although there are benefits to speaking with a clear accent somewhere further down the spectrum from true RP, from both a communication point of view, and that of the perception of your audience, rightly or wrongly, of your intelligence/education, I think most people would be taken aback by full on RP.
EDIT: also, I wouldn't say its particularly sought after, or prestigous for that matter - perhaps amongst learners, but I've never observed this trend amongst native speakers. There seems to be a perception of those who speak with it as "toffs", and in more modern times people seem to be taking more pride in their regional accents as part of their heritage. However, I would say in some circles, a home counties accent (a rather watered down version of RP, thats carries few distinctive regional markers, but neither the immediate upperclassness of RP) would be most desirable.
Edited by chloem14 on 10 July 2009 at 12:45am
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pmiller Account terminated Groupie Canada Joined 5677 days ago 99 posts - 104 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 4 of 6 14 July 2009 at 8:32am | IP Logged |
Where in England would one best learn this neutral home counties accent? (Which counties are considered home counties, and within them are some places better than others to hear and learn this accent?)
I hear Oxford and Cambridge are good places to pick up a good accent. Do you agree?
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6014 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 5 of 6 14 July 2009 at 10:42am | IP Logged |
The home counties are pretty much anywhere within a day's journey of central London by horse. All the rich people used to have a country house and a town house, and you couldn't travel between them for more than a day or you'd have to stop at an inn, and that would be far too common!
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Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5672 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin
| Message 6 of 6 14 July 2009 at 11:08am | IP Logged |
pmiller wrote:
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That depends. When I was at Oxford, the accent in college was very different from the accent "in the street". "The town" is quite separate from "the gown". Having said that, I do find the Oxford collegiate accent pleasant (perhaps a personal prejudice) primarily since it is rather crisp. Words are pronounced clearly. The town English is, alas, becoming ever closer to Estuary English.
Cambridge has a different accent. More "plummy" - closer perhaps to older RP - but in my opinion less clear pronunciation than Oxford.
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