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| tuffy Triglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 7036 days ago 1394 posts - 1412 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, German Studies: Spanish | Message 1 of 11 18 December 2005 at 1:24pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm nearly at the end of Pimsleur II.
I see that there are a few lessons where I have not mastered some sentences to my satisfaction. Some sentences I forgot and on some I 'stutter'. In any case: I feel I should know some things better (although I do know all the words!). Question: should I perfect these things or will Platiquemos also cover everything again? To put it differently: if I would only do Platiquemos without Pimsleur, would it then be enough, on it's own? So how much time should I spend on perfecting Pimsleur? Gracias! Tuffy Edited by tuffy on 18 December 2005 at 1:26pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Sir Nigel Senior Member United States Joined 7106 days ago 1126 posts - 1102 votes 2 sounds | Message 2 of 11 18 December 2005 at 2:00pm | IP Logged | ||
Absolutely. In fact I think you should consider starting Platiquemos now and work on finishing Pimsleur at a slower rate. Comparing the two courses isn't even fair. It's estimated that Pimsleur takes you to a FSI 1+ (Intermediate High). Platiquemos beats that halfway through the course and takes you up to an FSI 3. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tuffy Triglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 7036 days ago 1394 posts - 1412 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, German Studies: Spanish | Message 3 of 11 18 December 2005 at 3:19pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks Nigel.
Abandoning Pimsleur seems like a big step now. But I sure am glad to read this because I do believe I'm spending TOO much time on Pimsleur. At the very least I should SPEED through Pimsleur more. I also will skip the Plus version for now and start with Platiquemos earlier. Maybe I could do some 50-50 thing or realy speed very fast through Pimsleur. And I can always repeat Pimsleur lessons much later, after Platiqiuemos (if I then still need to :). At least glad to hear that speeding won't be a problem :) Thanks 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Sir Nigel Senior Member United States Joined 7106 days ago 1126 posts - 1102 votes 2 sounds | Message 4 of 11 18 December 2005 at 3:36pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hmm, I hope you didn't misunderstand me. I would suggest just focusing more on Platiquemos and less time on Pimsleur. You likely won't want to repeat Pimsleur lessons later on (especially not if you've complete Platiquemos!), so maybe spend less time each day on them. Say you spend two hours on Spanish a day, use 30 minutes for a Pimsleur lesson, then the rest for Platiquemos. The only "speeding" that you might want to do with Pimsleur is not writing stuff down. ;)
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| tuffy Triglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 7036 days ago 1394 posts - 1412 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, German Studies: Spanish | Message 5 of 11 18 December 2005 at 5:06pm | IP Logged | ||
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The only thing is that I don't think I can do 2 lessons at once. How does one set a target then? Which course is the course you should finish in those one or two days? Suppose Pimsleur teaches 6 new words and some sentences and Platiquemos also teaches new words. Which words do you learn then for that day? All is too much. I already find Pimsleur alone quite difficult often. I also function best when I focus on 1 thing at a time(also with other things in life). Do you have tips how I could handle this then?
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| Farley Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 7094 days ago 681 posts - 739 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, GermanB1, French Studies: Spanish | Message 6 of 11 18 December 2005 at 7:34pm | IP Logged | ||
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Tuffy, this is slightly off subject, but I’m having luck using Pimsleur French and French in Action together, at least it seems I’m making faster progress. I also have Assimil in the mix as well. I can go through a Pimsleur lesson once, and only once, per day and use the remaining time on French in Action. I can finish 5-6 Pimsleur lessons and 1 French in Action lesson per week, no problem.
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| Sir Nigel Senior Member United States Joined 7106 days ago 1126 posts - 1102 votes 2 sounds | Message 7 of 11 18 December 2005 at 7:56pm | IP Logged | ||
I think you need to enlighten us on how you study. The only thing I can say to your question is all words. With Platiquemos you just repeat the exercises till you can come up with the responses without thinking (or at least not scrambling for the word). Also if it's a dialogue, you would repeat it till you can understand everything and don't have to look at the translation. For the new words I don't go about "trying" to remember it, I just see it and repeat it later in the exercises. Most of the new vocabulary gets repeated, so you just remember it through usage. As far as Pimsleur, I was just saying you might devote only time for one 30 min lesson each day. So what if you learn 6 new words; if you aren't comfortable with the lesson then repeat it the next day. Edited by Sir Nigel on 18 December 2005 at 8:04pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tuffy Triglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 7036 days ago 1394 posts - 1412 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, German Studies: Spanish | Message 8 of 11 19 December 2005 at 4:44am | IP Logged | ||
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With Platiquemos you just repeat the exercises till you can come up with the responses without thinking
That's how I study Pimsleur. I repeat the lesson several times a day until I can answer correctly 90% 0r 100% of the time. And thus then I have learned the new words and phrases. But this process alone takes all my energy/attention and that's why I wonder if it would be a good idea to also study Platiquemos at the same time. When my attention is divided I probably won't learn either lesson well. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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