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| DavidW Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6517 days ago 318 posts - 458 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, French, Italian, Persian, Malay Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Portuguese, German, Urdu | Message 33 of 56 27 February 2011 at 9:42pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks for that. Does the Arabic look natural to you?
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| Andrew C Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom naturalarabic.com Joined 5181 days ago 205 posts - 350 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written) | Message 34 of 56 27 February 2011 at 9:42pm | IP Logged | ||
But you will need permission from the Arabic translator to record it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| DavidW Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6517 days ago 318 posts - 458 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French, Italian, Persian, Malay Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Portuguese, German, Urdu | Message 35 of 56 27 February 2011 at 9:58pm | IP Logged | ||
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Forgot that :-).. unless the translation is now in the public domain. The translator is
Amiirah.. Kiiwaan(?). There could be some more info on page 5 of the PDF, but my Arabic isn't good enough. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Andrew C Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom naturalarabic.com Joined 5181 days ago 205 posts - 350 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written) | Message 36 of 56 27 February 2011 at 10:11pm | IP Logged | ||
There's no info in the PDF about the translator apart from her name. I doubt the translation is in the public domain. Also it would be worth checking that an audiobook of it doesn't already exist, perhaps by contacting the publisher Dar al-Bihar. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6461 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 37 of 56 27 February 2011 at 10:20pm | IP Logged | ||
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I have the little prince, the adventures of Huckleberry Finn and pride and prejudice as
bilingual books by Dar al-Bihar. The layout is satisfactory. It's a pity the wording of the stories has been simplified (at least in English), but maybe that will be a blessing when I read the Arabic. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| DavidW Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6517 days ago 318 posts - 458 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French, Italian, Persian, Malay Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Portuguese, German, Urdu | Message 38 of 56 28 February 2011 at 1:05am | IP Logged | ||
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The English Alice in Wonderland text in the PDF seems to be the original.
I will get in touch with Dar al-Bihar this week and ask them about the audio book and the rights, to see what the possibilities are. Edited by DavidW on 28 February 2011 at 1:10am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Hashimi Senior Member Oman Joined 6250 days ago 362 posts - 529 votes Speaks: Arabic (Written)* Studies: English, Japanese | Message 39 of 56 03 March 2011 at 1:01am | IP Logged | ||
Yes, it's natural as a translated work. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| DavidW Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6517 days ago 318 posts - 458 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French, Italian, Persian, Malay Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Portuguese, German, Urdu | Message 40 of 56 04 March 2011 at 10:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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I asked Majed about 'Alice in Wonderland.' He said he didn't think the translation
wouldn't be suitable for students of Arabic, as it doesn't read as a book originally written in Arabic. He said this is common for books translated into Arabic. I don't know if that is what you meant, Hashimi. Unfortunately I can't judge the text for myself. He also made some suggestions for other books. I have copied from his email below. Comments and suggestions are welcome. I have made some progress on the rights to 'The Days,' and I will continue to try to get the rights to 'Doaa Al-Karawan,' for which Majed already has an audiobook. He has also started the reading of 'The Days.' ---- The Arabic language, like the English language, has evolved during the last 80 years. If we go back more than 80 years, the written language would remind more Shakespearean English. If we are looking for Arabic books for learning the language, I think sticking to the last 80 years would be a fairly good choice. Following are some famous Egyptian writers from the last 80 years, where it is fairly possible to find translations to many foreign languages, and they write in a fairly easy language. I am listing them in the order of preference. 1- Tawfik Al Hakim October 9, 1898 – July 26, 1987 Egyptian writer, nominated for Nobel, wrote a famous book called (The return of the spirit) which was the innovation for Nasser and a prediction for the 1952 revolution. He was called the father of the modern theater. He believed that the colloquial Egyptian languages comes from deep Arabic conventional roots, he writes his novels and plays in a particular way, where you can read it in colloquial Egyptian language and it will be correct, and if you read it in conventional Arabic, it will be also correct. An excellent choice for Arabic language students, who can learn the common vocabulary used in colloquial and conventional Arabic. Most of his work is translated. 2- Taha Hussein (November 14, 1889—October 28, 1973) He was called the Deen of Arabic literature. He uses elegant conventional Arabic style. Most of his books are narrated. Most of his work is translated. 3- Nagiub Mahfouz (December 11, 1911 – August 30, 2006) Noble prize awarded .He uses simple language, deep meanings. Most of his novels describe life in the alleys of Cairo, where he lived, conveying the real soul of Cairo at the time. He was called the people's writer.Most of his work is translated 4- Ihsan Abdel Quddous (January 1, 1919 – January 11, 1990) He was a political journalist, and the son of rose AlYousef, the founder of a very famous magazine in Egypt. Famous for his love stories, where he digs deep inside the female personality, in a deeply sensitive way. He uses simple language, and sometimes colloquial in dialogue. Most of his work is translated 5- Anis Mansour August 18, 1925- Journalist, mostly write about travel , science fiction, and secret powers.Most of his work is translated 6- Mahmoud Alsadany 1928-2010 sarcastic Egyptian writer/journalist, uses simple language with some colloquial. 7- Moustafa Amin 1914 - 1997 Most well known columnist in Egypt. founded Akhbar Alyoum newspaper with his twin brother Ali. Writes elegantly deep metaphoric political novels. 8- Ahmed Khaled Tawfik known for his pocket series books. simple language books, all about science fiction, his writings remind Edgar Alan poe. Although these writers books are not in the public domain, they would be the best match for our project. I think getting the approval to use the texts would not be a problem, as most of their books are out of print. Edited by DavidW on 04 March 2011 at 10:57pm 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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