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| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6271 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes  Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 9 of 12 21 June 2009 at 5:17pm | IP Logged |
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You could probably come up with impressive lists for all possible permutations of a word in Turkish, another agglutinative language.
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| cathrynm Senior Member United States junglevision.co Joined 6124 days ago 910 posts - 1232 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Finnish | Message 10 of 12 21 June 2009 at 10:21pm | IP Logged |
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I'm still puzzling over how to attack this problem. I'm thinking for learning Finnish as a non-native speaker what would be more useful is a spreadsheet of, say, a few hundred common verbs and not-verbs, sorted by which conjugation rules apply, and then with each column representing one of the more basic forms. And I'd drill vertically down the spreadsheet, printed on paper with a bookmark covering the answer, conjugating each word to the same tense.
I'm not sure if this is clearly explained here, and I'm not sure if it makes sense yet. But the basic idea is I'd like to see words that conjugate the same way all grouped together and practice the various forms one at a time. Seeing a lot of different forms for a single word is just too overwhelming. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6702 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 11 of 12 21 June 2009 at 11:07pm | IP Logged |
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Who would ever dream of learning 2253 forms by heart if you have the possibility to learn the machine that generates them? As I have understood it, Finnish is one big machine that in a regular fashion can produce complex words, which in other languages the same content would be expressed through a lot of partly idiomatic expressions. I don't see that as scary.
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 Hencke Tetraglot Moderator Spain Joined 6893 days ago 2340 posts - 2444 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Finnish, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: Mandarin Personal Language Map | Message 12 of 12 22 June 2009 at 1:09am | IP Logged |
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Yes, it is all about learning, and internalising the "machine" to produce the different structures. As a skill it is somewhat similar to the skill of constructing sentences in other languages.
If you have no previous experience with a system of this kind it might feel slightly more complicated at first, mainly because of the novelty, but not enormously so. On the other hand it offers absolutely fascinating possibilities for variation and expressiveness that more than make up for the extra effort. There is no reason at all to feel intimidated. Just dive in and have fun with it. I am not too sure about any specific drilling methods to build up this skill, but I imagine existing language courses will apply some kind of approach. Edited by Hencke on 22 June 2009 at 1:10am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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