cbashara Senior Member United States adventuresinspanish. Joined 7131 days ago 186 posts - 188 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 1 of 7 17 November 2005 at 2:42pm | IP Logged |
I am writing a little poem that my Spanish tutor assigned and I am having trouble with one sentence.
I am trying to say: They think everyone should love them.
Is this correct: Piensan que todos deben quererles.
I have a really hard time with pronouns for some reason and I just can't think of any other way to put it.
Thanks!
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morprussell Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7165 days ago 272 posts - 285 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French
| Message 2 of 7 17 November 2005 at 3:27pm | IP Logged |
In this case you would use a direct object pronoun. So it would be "los" unless you are talking about women, then it would be "las". After reading previous posts, it sounds like you could possibly use "les".
This sentence sounds best to me.
"Piensan que todo el mundo deberķa quererlos."
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cbashara Senior Member United States adventuresinspanish. Joined 7131 days ago 186 posts - 188 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 3 of 7 17 November 2005 at 3:52pm | IP Logged |
Okay, direct object makes sense, and I am talking about a *generic* group of people, neither men nor women, so I suppose *los* is the best choice, correct?
Can you tell me why you would put deber in the conditional tense? I haven't really studied this tense that much, so I am uncertain of when it is used. I thought it expressed what someone *would do* or conjecture or possibility about the future.
Thanks so much for your help!
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morprussell Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7165 days ago 272 posts - 285 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French
| Message 4 of 7 17 November 2005 at 4:18pm | IP Logged |
cbashara wrote:
Okay, direct object makes sense, and I am talking about a *generic* group of people, neither men nor women, so I suppose *los* is the best choice, correct? |
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Yes, for a generic group of people "los" is what you would use.
cbashara wrote:
Can you tell me why you would put deber in the conditional tense? I haven't really studied this tense that much, so I am uncertain of when it is used. I thought it expressed what someone *would do* or conjecture or possibility about the future. |
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I put "deber" in the conditional tense because "deberķa" means "should", while "debe" means "must". So for your sentence "deberķa" is the best choice. Sorry I couldn't explain that better. You're right about the conditional tense, it does express what someone "would do".
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patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7017 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map
| Message 5 of 7 17 November 2005 at 4:19pm | IP Logged |
cbasara wrote:
Can you tell me why you would put deber in the conditional tense? |
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Just a guess (grammar's not my strong point) but isn't the word "should" conditional? If so, that's why the use of the conditional tense.
Morprussell's sentence sounds just fine to me. You could also use "todos" (as you initially suggested) and change the "deberķa" to "deberķan".
morprussell wrote:
After reading previous posts, it sounds like you could possibly use "les". |
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Let's not start that again!!! ;-)
[EDIT: morprussell posted while I was writing, so my "guess" at grammar wasn't that far off!]
Edited by patuco on 17 November 2005 at 4:22pm
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Luis Octoglot Newbie Spain Joined 7067 days ago 35 posts - 34 votes Speaks: Spanish*, Portuguese, Catalan, Latin, FrenchB2, English, Italian, Ancient Greek
| Message 6 of 7 21 November 2005 at 2:14pm | IP Logged |
...quererles and quererlos (complementos directos are correct for persons
but for things... we must use quererlos
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patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7017 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map
| Message 7 of 7 21 November 2005 at 4:13pm | IP Logged |
Luis wrote:
for things... we must use quererlos |
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You are right, but the sentence said: They think everyone should love them.
In other words, they are referring to people so the use of "les" would be OK (if you want to be polite).
But, like I already mentioned, this is a different topic!
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