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Jar-ptitsa
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 Message 17 of 39
13 June 2009 at 11:54am | IP Logged 
Yes, exactly.

I don't understand why they say that Chinese is the language of the future, and anyway Chinese isn't a language I suppose they refer Mandarin, or Cantonese (?) But I heard that there are many of chinese languages. English = the global language, for sure during all our lives, and yes I think as well it will get even more important.

Edited by Jar-ptitsa on 13 June 2009 at 11:55am

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lecorbeau
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 Message 18 of 39
13 June 2009 at 2:57pm | IP Logged 
jbbar wrote:
It is really a waste of time trying to find out what language might have been today's lingua franca instead of English because history is what it is and it cannot be undone. .


This discussion was simply meant to be an "out of curiosity" and "for fun" post. I apologize to the HTOLAL community if I happened to waste a few minutes of your day.

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jbbar
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 Message 19 of 39
13 June 2009 at 3:33pm | IP Logged 
lecorbeau wrote:
jbbar wrote:
It is really a waste of time trying to find out what language might have been today's lingua franca instead of English because history is what it is and it cannot be undone. .


This discussion was simply meant to be an "out of curiosity" and "for fun" post. I apologize to the HTOLAL community if I happened to waste a few minutes of your day.


Lecorbeau, there's no reason to get cranky over this. I didn't say you were wasting our time, what I meant is that the question is useless because it's all too hypothetical. From the way you responded to Tombstone, I thought you were serious about this and that you'd rather have had another lingua franca. No offense meant.

jbbar
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Rmss
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 Message 20 of 39
14 June 2009 at 2:41am | IP Logged 
Jar-ptitsa wrote:
Dutch would be easier because it's more simple (no slang, phonetic orthography, lesser vocabulary, more slowly spoken, easier grammar ) but English's funnier. What a relief it's not Chinese.


Dutch has no slang?! EVERY (natural) language has slang. No really, EVERY. I invite you to come to the Netherlands and hang out with some friends of mine and me. Let's see if you can follow every conversation, even though your native language is Dutch. Same counts for me though; I'm a bit lost at times with Flemish speakers.

A 'negative' side of Dutch is that the avarage person uses many expressions which are unique to Dutch and are quite difficult to explain.
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ptrk7
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 Message 21 of 39
14 June 2009 at 3:39am | IP Logged 
I would wish that Greek was more widely spoken than English.
I plan on learning Greek sometime, for some reason I absolutely love the way it sounds.
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Jar-ptitsa
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 Message 22 of 39
14 June 2009 at 4:02pm | IP Logged 
Rmss wrote:
Jar-ptitsa wrote:
Dutch would be easier because it's more simple (no slang, phonetic orthography, lesser vocabulary, more slowly spoken, easier grammar ) but English's funnier. What a relief it's not Chinese.


Dutch has no slang?! EVERY (natural) language has slang. No really, EVERY. I invite you to come to the Netherlands and hang out with some friends of mine and me. Let's see if you can follow every conversation, even though your native language is Dutch. Same counts for me though; I'm a bit lost at times with Flemish speakers.

A 'negative' side of Dutch is that the avarage person uses many expressions which are unique to Dutch and are quite difficult to explain.


No, my native language's French, not Dutch but I can understand very well Dutch. Of the Dutch /Flemish TV I can understand about 95% or 100%. In Dutch there're dialects differences, but almost no slang. English and French have MUCH more slang in comparison with Dutch and German.
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jbbar
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 Message 23 of 39
14 June 2009 at 6:39pm | IP Logged 
Jar-ptitsa wrote:
Rmss wrote:
Jar-ptitsa wrote:
Dutch would be easier because it's more simple (no slang, phonetic orthography, lesser vocabulary, more slowly spoken, easier grammar ) but English's funnier. What a relief it's not Chinese.


Dutch has no slang?! EVERY (natural) language has slang. No really, EVERY. I invite you to come to the Netherlands and hang out with some friends of mine and me. Let's see if you can follow every conversation, even though your native language is Dutch. Same counts for me though; I'm a bit lost at times with Flemish speakers.

A 'negative' side of Dutch is that the avarage person uses many expressions which are unique to Dutch and are quite difficult to explain.


No, my native language's French, not Dutch but I can understand very well Dutch. Of the Dutch /Flemish TV I can understand about 95% or 100%. In Dutch there're dialects differences, but almost no slang. English and French have MUCH more slang in comparison with Dutch and German.


Actually I can understand why you say that. French has its 'argot' and English has its 'slang'. Flanders, however, is extremely dialectical compared to the Netherlands. Most people prefer to speak in a regional dialect or the one they grew up with. So we don't think of slangish expressions and words as being associated with the Dutch standard language, but with the regional dialects instead. However, I think that what Rmss says about the Netherlands is correct. I also agree that native Dutch-speakers generally tend to use quite a lot of figures of speech.

jbbar
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