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Aquedita
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 Message 9 of 17
14 June 2009 at 1:59pm | IP Logged 
Of course traditional. I see no other option for me. Although I do recognize some of the traditional forms thanks of my knowledge of kanji.
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JBI
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 Message 10 of 17
14 June 2009 at 5:07pm | IP Logged 
I am learning traditional, but quite simply, once you get all the radicals in your mind really, and understand the morphology taken to get to simplified (which is essentially a removal of strokes, and a replacement with simpler, quicker strokes, or frames) you can read both. It's good though, to know the traditional radicals first - it teaches stuff about etymology and the culture, and also prepares one for understanding simplified better. Ultimately though, that choice was my university's, so as soon as they let me switch, I'm only going to write simplified, as my writing is terrible to begin with.
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julie1275
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 Message 11 of 17
14 June 2009 at 6:22pm | IP Logged 
In my case, though I am learning simplified script for Mandarin, I also know many of
traditional forms because we use some traditional Chinese characters unofficially in
Korea.
I suggest that you learn simplified first. Even simplified is complex enough for
beginners to write. When you are accustomed to it, then move to traditional so you can
enjoy the beauty of the letters and abundant old texts.



Edited by julie1275 on 14 June 2009 at 6:23pm

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Hsiao
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 Message 12 of 17
17 June 2009 at 3:03pm | IP Logged 
TRADITIONAL ... but i will learn the simplified ... because i think that i need to know both traditional and simplified
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cordelia0507
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 Message 13 of 17
17 June 2009 at 9:21pm | IP Logged 
Gosh - I am so surprised at how many of you prefer Traditional!

The Japanese connection is understandable for those who already know some Kanji.

I had no idea it was so easy to guess one if you knew the other.
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OneEye
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 Message 14 of 17
17 June 2009 at 11:24pm | IP Logged 
Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. For instance, 語 and 语 are easy enough. 漢 and 汉 less so, and 開 and 开 probably even less so. Then some are much less obvious, like 後 and 后 (different meanings but same pronunciation in traditional, but 后 carries both meanings in simplified). And there's always 乾 幹 and 干, all are 干 in simplified.

But for the most part, the changes are pretty easy to predict (馬 嗎 媽 碼 = 马 吗 妈 码).
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Bao
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 Message 15 of 17
18 June 2009 at 12:24am | IP Logged 
cordelia0507 wrote:
Gosh - I am so surprised at how many of you prefer Traditional!

The Japanese connection is understandable for those who already know some Kanji.

I had no idea it was so easy to guess one if you knew the other.

Many characters are still the same, so even if there was some gibberish character in place of some characters you might be able to guess what it means if you just know the language and writing system well enough. But many simplifications are using cursive forms that had been in use prior to the reform, and therefor are somewhat natural in the logic of hanzi.

Fun fact: The entry in the Chinese wikipedia on simplified characters is currently locked.

Edited by Bao on 18 June 2009 at 12:27am

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irrationale
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 Message 16 of 17
19 June 2009 at 11:08am | IP Logged 
I am learning simplified...


I am suprised at all the traditional learners here! I eventually want to get to traditional of course, but my eyes are on the mainland, so for now, my immediate goal is to read and write simplified. Next will come recognizing traditional, then if necessary, writing it.


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