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tuffy
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21 November 2005 at 3:26pm | IP Logged 
Can anybody explain the difference between TU and TI?
I know you can say "pienso en ti" and "todo para ti".
So ti means you (informal).

But tu is also used as an informal you: "tu es mi amor".
(Just a simple sample sentence :-)

So when do you use tu and when ti?
What's the difference?

In Dutch there is a difference: "jij en jou" but I don't know how to explain the difference in English.
Is ti "for/to/about you"? and tu is simply you?

Tuffy

Edited by tuffy on 21 November 2005 at 3:29pm

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21 November 2005 at 3:35pm | IP Logged 
haha...I asked this question only this morning!

The answer I was given is that ti is used in situations where something is FOR you....para ti.

And tu is used when talking about you or directly to you.

Make sense? I hope so. Though I haven´t seen this much yet so i´m not sure if there are other contexts where the meaning is different.
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21 November 2005 at 4:39pm | IP Logged 
"tú" means "you". It's a personal pronoun, e.g. "tú eres mi amor" = you are my love.

"ti" means "you" or "yourself". It's also a pronoun but should be used before a preposition, e.g. "¿lo has comprado para ti?" = did you buy it for yourself? OR "esto no se refiere a ti" = this isn't about you.

Hope this helps.
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21 November 2005 at 4:40pm | IP Logged 
Ah cool :-)
Great timing huh? :-)
Yes, it's clear this way, thanks!


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21 November 2005 at 4:43pm | IP Logged 
Thanks Patuco.
You write something that raises another question though :)

Tu eres mi amor.
Why isn't it Tu es mi amor?
I understand it's always eres instead of es when talking in the informal way? So when I talk informal I never use es but always eres?

There is also a song called "eres tu". What does that mean then? You are? (You are what..? :-)






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21 November 2005 at 5:03pm | IP Logged 
I'm not sure what grammatical rule applies for the use of "es" as opposed to "eres". I know that they are both derived from the verb "ser" (to be). It might be according to how you conjugate the verb, e.g.

"tú eres un borracho" = you are a drunk
"él es un borracho" = he is a drunk



tuffy wrote:
There is also a song called "eres tu". What does that mean then? You are? (You are what..? :-)

No, this literally means "it's you", or to put it in better English, "you are the one (for me)"
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22 November 2005 at 2:02pm | IP Logged 
Ah ok, "its you", of course.
I think then that eres belongs to the tu form.
Just as the extra s is for the usage of tu.
I have a program called verbix and I see now that with the verb "ser" behind tu it says "eres".

Gracias.




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