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| Nado Bilingual Triglot Newbie United States Joined 5999 days ago 11 posts - 11 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, Spanish Studies: German | Message 1 of 9 23 June 2008 at 8:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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How do you correctly prounce ich in German?
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| ElfoEscuro Diglot Senior Member United States cyworld.com/brahmapu Joined 6289 days ago 408 posts - 423 votes  Speaks: Portuguese, English* Studies: Japanese | Message 2 of 9 23 June 2008 at 10:53pm | IP Logged | ||
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<ich> = [ɪç]
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| Rameau Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6107 days ago 149 posts - 258 votes 4 sounds Speaks: English*, GermanC1, Danish Studies: Swedish, French, Icelandic | Message 3 of 9 24 June 2008 at 6:01am | IP Logged | ||
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In the event that you're not up on your IPA, the ch sound in "ich" roughly corresponds to the h at the beginning of the English word "human".
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| zerothinking Senior Member Australia Joined 6372 days ago 528 posts - 772 votes Speaks: English* | Message 4 of 9 25 June 2008 at 4:42am | IP Logged | ||
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Hmmm... the Hochdeutsch 'ch'
Let me help you. These aren't too helpful. The 'h' in 'human' is a decent approximation but it is harsher and more fricative. The approximate mouth position is that of the sound 'y' in 'yellow' it is the unvoiced fricative of approximately this mouth position on the ridge just behind your teeth. You make the friction sound on this part of your mouth by just letting through enough air. It's the same principle as all the fricative sounds such as 's' which lets through the air to make the friction noise you hear. Don't pronounce it on the roof of your mouth. Edited by zerothinking on 25 June 2008 at 4:44am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Biene Diglot Groupie Germany Joined 6222 days ago 71 posts - 73 votes 2 sounds Speaks: German*, English Studies: Dutch, Japanese | Message 5 of 9 01 July 2008 at 12:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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I had been looking for this link (http://www.uiowa.edu/~acadtech/phonetics/), since it not only gives auido examples but also instructions with visual aid. It seems that you have to know some German to naviage and understand the instructions, so here a little guideline:
for "ich": click on "Frikative (Reibelaute)" the "ch" in "ich" would be the [ç] in the column "stimmlos" the step by step instruction translates roughtly: 1. The (tongue)-blade forms a narrow (air)passage at the hard part of the palate. 2. The velum is lifted and closes the nose cavety. 3. The vocal cords don't move. 4. The air flow streams through the narrow passage in the mouth cavety and creates a fricative sound. What this instructions mean is nicely illustrated in the animated instruction film. Though I wanted to add that when I say "ich" the tongue-blade is actually touching the hard part of the palate and just leaves a very narrow passage in the middle for the air to flow through. The other German "ch"-sound is [x] just beneath [ç]: 1. The (tongue)-blade forms a narrow (air)passage at the soft part of the palate, the velar. 2. The velum is lifted and closes the nose cavety. 3. The vocal cords don't move. 4. The air flow streams through the narrow passage in the mouth cavety and creates a fricative sound. It might be a good idea to exagerate at the beginning. When you do that the soft part of the palate will actually start to vibrate a bit and touch the tongue. It's almost as if you try to clear your throat, but not exactely as if. There is a useful explanation about the usage of the "ch" as in "ach" and as in "ich" on Wikipedia. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Earle Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6315 days ago 276 posts - 276 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Norwegian, Spanish | Message 6 of 9 06 July 2008 at 12:34pm | IP Logged | ||
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It seems to me that the "ich" I heard in Hesse (and from the Darmstadt native who lived next door to me for nine years) was more up front. Sounded almost like "ish" in English...
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| Marc Frisch Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6665 days ago 1001 posts - 1169 votes Speaks: German*, French, English, Spanish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Persian, Tamil | Message 7 of 9 06 July 2008 at 2:01pm | IP Logged | ||
That's quite common in Central German dialects from Thüringen to the Saarland. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| nhk9 Senior Member Canada Joined 6804 days ago 290 posts - 319 votes Speaks: English* | Message 8 of 9 01 June 2009 at 1:49am | IP Logged | ||
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Just pronounce the y sound in 'yippie' without a voiced sound (ie. not moving your vocal cord). This sound corresponds to the 'ch' in 'ich'.
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