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| JWC Groupie United States Joined 7100 days ago 69 posts - 107 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 1 of 7 10 October 2005 at 5:50am | IP Logged |
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I am hitting a roadblock on Spanish pronunciation.
I can now roll my r's in Spanish (both a singular tap and the "rr" trill)--which is something I could never do before. That is encouraging--I have read one cannot learn the rolled r as an adult and found over time that wasn't true. I learned a single "r" sound and after about 2 months of daily practice I learned to do a roll ("rr"). But now I am having real problems pronouncing "tr". For example, "No traje mi carro." I have no problem saying carro, but traje presents immense problems for me. I have tried saying "thr" instead of "tr", and can approximate a "tr" sound, but there is a lag time of about 1 1/2 seconds before my tongue can link the consonants together. Does anyone have advice on the mechanics of learning "tr" in Spanish (particularly at the beginning of a word. For example, does the tongue touch the teeth or roof of one's mouth for the t or the r? I would be encouraged if anyone has a success story on conquering this consonant cluster. --jwc 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7017 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 2 of 7 10 October 2005 at 6:06am | IP Logged |
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I've just checked by pronouncing "traje" and my tongue touches the roof of my mouth just behind my teeth for the formation of the letter "t". Don't know if this helps.
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| administrator Hexaglot Forum Admin Switzerland FXcuisine.com Joined 7378 days ago 3094 posts - 2987 votes 12 sounds Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 3 of 7 10 October 2005 at 6:25am | IP Logged |
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JWC, you are welcome to post this type of question in the proper room which is 'Practical Self-Study Questions'. Thank you!
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| KingM Triglot Senior Member michaelwallaceauthor Joined 7193 days ago 275 posts - 300 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: Russian | Message 4 of 7 10 October 2005 at 7:00am | IP Logged |
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I haven't had a problem with this particular sound, but I would tackle it the same way that you approached the rolled r. That is, you need to get something that's close and then keep pounding at it.
Find a sentence that emphasizes the sound and repeat it again and again. Put it to use when you're in the shower, taking a walk, driving in your car, etc. Get to the point where you can say it at full speed without a stutter. How about this? Traigo tres trajes tradicionales. Lather, rinse, repeat. ;) 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Andy E Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 7105 days ago 1651 posts - 1939 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French | Message 5 of 7 10 October 2005 at 8:25am | IP Logged |
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Here's another apposite trabalenguas...
Tres tristes tigres tragaban trigo en un trigal Andy. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| JWC Groupie United States Joined 7100 days ago 69 posts - 107 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 6 of 7 14 October 2005 at 4:27pm | IP Logged |
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Thanks to everyone for the advice. This is partially a mental block I seem to have, so the tongue twister seems to get me unstuck. I will have a progress report later should I conquer this problem.
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| morprussell Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7165 days ago 272 posts - 285 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French | Message 7 of 7 14 October 2005 at 5:11pm | IP Logged |
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I suggest pronouncing the "tr" in "traje" like the "tr" in "straw". Try saying "straje" a few times, then change the "s" sound to a "t" sound. I bet this does the trick.
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