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Cainntear
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 Message 9 of 14
04 March 2009 at 6:53pm | IP Logged 
TheElvenLord wrote:
I know Cornish was reconstructed entirely (well, about 99%) from old texts written by native speakers. New words have been introduced. But - Welsh has far more English loanwords than Cornish - but Welsh is still its own.

But most of those loanwords were assimilated over time by native bilingual speakers, and that has formed Modern Welsh.

Others were introduced by the rapid expansion of Welsh language education into non-native areas, of course, and the people of North Wales will often decry the language of South Wales as lamentably anglicised. (The North don't have a word for "evening", which is a very Germanic word to have -- Southern Welsh does.... I think.)
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William Camden
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 Message 10 of 14
04 March 2009 at 7:36pm | IP Logged 
There is supposed to be a significant difference between written Welsh and Scottish Gaelic, and what people actually speak, with there being several dialects.
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Stephen
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 Message 11 of 14
05 March 2009 at 12:08am | IP Logged 
William Camden wrote:
There is supposed to be a significant difference between written Welsh and Scottish Gaelic, and what people actually speak, with there being several dialects.


Yes there is a huge difference and I suppose being from different branches on the Celtic language tree, underlines this.
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 Message 12 of 14
05 March 2009 at 3:58pm | IP Logged 
They still exist. Only their tails have disappeared
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Ashiro
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 Message 13 of 14
31 May 2009 at 3:55pm | IP Logged 
I'll be taking up Manx as one of my 'languages to learn' in life. It annoys me when people insist a language is extinct. When people fire back that its still spoken they hit back with - no thats neo-Manx (or neo-something or other). Its not the real language.

Considering how fluid language is I think its a bit silly to suggest that a language still spoken is extinct. The fact the last 'native speaker' died is largeley irrelevent. The language was still spoken as a second language by many, it was recorded, written and used (however rarely). It was a dormant part of the culture of Mann perhaps but it certainly didn't extinguish and turn into some ugly neo-zombie dialect.

I find it mildly offensive and very unfair to the thousands of people actively learning it and re-invigorating this part of their culture.

The same goes for other languages labelled 'extinct' such as Cornish.
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Sennin
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 Message 14 of 14
31 May 2009 at 4:15pm | IP Logged 
icing_death wrote:
They still exist. Only their tails have disappeared


Astonishing...
There is a town in Bulgaria, called Gabrovo, where cats suffer the same misfortune. The difference is Manx cats are born this way, whereas Gabrovo cats have their tails cut... with an axe.


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