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jeschell
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16 October 2005 at 5:36pm | IP Logged 
Hello, this is my first time using this forum, though I have visited it many times before since it is such an excellent site!

Anyway, I am deciding to learn Dutch as my first foreign language (I studied Spanish for three years in high school but didn't get anywhere due to lack of interest). I have pretty much no knowledge of Dutch but I am seeing that the word order is going to be a problem for me for awhile. Does anyone know of a detailed explanation of word order? I have "Essential Dutch Grammar" by Henry Stern, but the section on word order left me with many more questions.

Specifically I am not understanding the placement of words in such sentences as this:

"Hij zegt dat hij niet zingen wil."

How would I get such a word order in to my mind...would it help if I started thinking English in Dutch word order or something? lol

So, basically is there a site with detailed explanation of word order or is there a set pattern that I am not seeing?

Thank you so much for any help!
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Bart
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17 October 2005 at 2:44am | IP Logged 
I can't really help you with resources, as I'm a native speaker, but I can tell you that I (as a native, albeit a Belgian) would change the word order in your example sentence.

I would say it like this: "Hij zegt dat hij niet wil zingen."
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jeschell
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18 October 2005 at 4:41pm | IP Logged 
Thank you! Yeah, that makes a lot more sense then the sentence I gave..I wonder why my book said it was the other way around
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Bart
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18 October 2005 at 5:11pm | IP Logged 
The sentence you wrote isn't really wrong, but I wouldn't use it unless it was for a poem or a songtext or something.

It's correct, but I at least would never use it in regular speech.

Edited by Bart on 18 October 2005 at 5:13pm

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tuffy
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19 October 2005 at 9:33am | IP Logged 
I totaly agree with Bart.

I did a very quick search for you Jeshell.
Maybe this helps a little:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_grammar

Tuffy

Edited by tuffy on 19 October 2005 at 9:36am

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jeschell
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19 October 2005 at 2:22pm | IP Logged 
Thanks! I've used Wikipedia before but I had no idea that they had a Dutch Grammar section, so thanks for that.


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