William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6272 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French
| Message 9 of 43 12 March 2009 at 7:36pm | IP Logged |
I bought the screenplay of Au Revoir Les Enfants, then watched the film while consulting it. There was a contrast between the clipped and muffled ways of colloquial French and what was printed on the page.
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dolly Senior Member United States Joined 5790 days ago 191 posts - 376 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Latin
| Message 10 of 43 12 March 2009 at 9:03pm | IP Logged |
It would be a big help if word contractions were taught as standard spoken french, and that's what they are. I'm
not talking about c'est. I mean coup'd'main and la'd'dans and c'truc. The recordings in high school were a joke,
with teenagers talking as slow as politicians.
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jbbar Senior Member Belgium Joined 5800 days ago 192 posts - 210 votes Speaks: English
| Message 11 of 43 12 March 2009 at 9:21pm | IP Logged |
The huge vocabulary, for the most part. I also find it somewhat difficult to express myself in French sometimes. I speak a Germanic language and my best foreign language is English - yet another Germanic language. So when I'm talking in French I'm sometimes tempted to think too much in a "Germanic" way as I would in Dutch or English. But of course French being a Romance language, it expresses itself differently. You really have to learn to think in French and frankly I still haven't reached the point where I can confidently do that. So I end up having to think too much about what I'm going to say while I'm speaking and then you sound slow and unsure. Fortunately it's not always like that. It's mostly when I'm talking about rather difficult topics. But... I'm working on it! ;)
jbbar
Edited by jbbar on 12 March 2009 at 9:22pm
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QiuJP Triglot Senior Member Singapore Joined 5855 days ago 428 posts - 597 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, EnglishC2, French Studies: Czech, GermanB1, Russian, Japanese
| Message 12 of 43 12 March 2009 at 9:42pm | IP Logged |
dollymangatears wrote:
It would be a big help if word contractions were taught as standard spoken french, and that's what they are. I'm
not talking about c'est. I mean coup'd'main and la'd'dans and c'truc. The recordings in high school were a joke,
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I totally agree with you. I have problem engaging in a conversation with my peers in the university, and yet I can discus my project with my professeur!
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jimbo baby! Senior Member United States Joined 5977 days ago 202 posts - 208 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English*
| Message 13 of 43 13 March 2009 at 12:36am | IP Logged |
FrenchLanguage wrote:
Hello,
I have been wondering what the main problems of people trying to learn the French language were.
For me it has to be listening comprehension. However, I think understanding spoken language is one of my weak areas in general (even in German, which is my mother tongue ;)), whereas I have little trouble with grammar and "details".
What's your main problem with French? Listening? or Grammar? or something else?
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Oh, you're German! Then you must be from the same part of Germany as Bao and sprachefin. ;-)
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FrenchLanguage Senior Member Germany Joined 5736 days ago 122 posts - 135 votes
| Message 14 of 43 13 March 2009 at 1:04am | IP Logged |
Hehe Why do you think I must be from the same part of Germany as them? No idea if this has anything to do with it, but in the part of Germany where I live the number of Spanish-learners outnumbers French-learners by about 10:1 (at least among university students..its that extreme). However in the regions that border with France, Ive been told French has the upper-hand (obviously more useful to people who can just hop across the border), so if they only speak French (or focus on it), my guess would be they are more likely to be from there.
Of course thats really just a guess lol
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FrenchLanguage Senior Member Germany Joined 5736 days ago 122 posts - 135 votes
| Message 15 of 43 14 March 2009 at 7:36am | IP Logged |
@Dark Sunshine, .automne & onesteptwostep:
Do you practice listening comprehension separately/focus on practicing it if it's your main problem with French?
I've had the same problem (mostly my listening lags behind) and have pretty much spent 50% or more of my time "listening"...I must admit it kind of sucks when your reading, writing and speaking skills are close to fluency, but when you have a conversation with someone (or try to) you have to ask them to speak more slowly...
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Lapislazuli Tetraglot Senior Member Austria Joined 7036 days ago 146 posts - 170 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, ItalianB1 Studies: French, Hungarian, Esperanto, Czech
| Message 16 of 43 14 March 2009 at 2:23pm | IP Logged |
I agree that understanding spoken French is generally one of the difficult parts of that language.
For me the biggest problem with French is more a personal one, as I once had a French-teacher, who mainly teached me to dislike that language so much, that I even after more then 10 years don't feel very tempted at all to work with it again. Now I don't hate it anymore, I even like it sometimes, but there are so many other languages that I find more interesting at the moment.
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