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| cbashara Senior Member United States adventuresinspanish. Joined 7135 days ago 186 posts - 188 votes  1 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 1 of 9 26 October 2005 at 3:26pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Can you help me with the following expressions:
dar miedo dar tristeza dar risa dar sueño dar ganas de + infinitive dar lástima dar asco dar fiojera dar vergüenza I think I understand the meaning of a few of these, but I would like a little confirmation. Also I believe they are used the indirect object pronoun (much like the verb gustar). Is that correct? For example: A mí me da lástima cuando veo niños trabajando en las calles. It makes me sad (or gives me shame or pity) when I see children working in the street. Is this correct? Thanks! Chandra 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| cbashara Senior Member United States adventuresinspanish. Joined 7135 days ago 186 posts - 188 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 2 of 9 26 October 2005 at 3:45pm | IP Logged | |||||
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A few more phrases that use the indirect object pronoun:
convenir ir faltar sobrar hacer daño costar trabajo Thanks! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7021 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 3 of 9 26 October 2005 at 4:38pm | IP Logged | |||||
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The problem with translating these phrases is that they don't make much sense if done literally. They shouldn't be translated word for word but rather the phrase as a whole should be understood and then put into a sensible format in English.
Anyway, here goes: A mí me da lástima cuando veo niños trabajando en las calles. = It gives me pity when I see children working in the street. (literal translation) This is probably better as: I feel sorry for children working on the streets. The rest are: dar miedo = be afraid (give fear) dar tristeza = be sad (give sadness) dar risa = be funny (give laughs) dar sueño = be sleepy (give sleepiness) dar ganas de + infinitive = feel like (give want) dar lástima = feel sorry (give pity) dar asco = feel disgust (give disgust) dar fiojera = ??? (don't recognise this word) dar vergüenza = feel embarrassed (give embarrassment) The verb "dar" (to give) cannot be translated literally otherwise the English phrase sounds a bit funny, as the phrases in brackets show. Here are the rest: convenir = to agree / to suit ir = to go faltar = to be lacking in sobrar = to surpass hacer daño = to cause harm costar trabajo = to require a lot of effort I'm afraid that I won't be much (any?) help with grammar. I hope this helps. Ask if you want me to clarify anything. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| cbashara Senior Member United States adventuresinspanish. Joined 7135 days ago 186 posts - 188 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 4 of 9 26 October 2005 at 5:17pm | IP Logged | |||||
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That actually helps a lot! Thanks! :)
And, the word you don't recognize...well, that's because it's a typo. It's dar flojera (give laziness?) The only one I am not getting is ir. I know that ir means to go, but the worksheet I am working on is using it in specific idomatic expressions with the indirect object pronoun. No problem though, I am going to see my tutor tonight. Thanks again! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| cbashara Senior Member United States adventuresinspanish. Joined 7135 days ago 186 posts - 188 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 5 of 9 26 October 2005 at 5:22pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Actually, I just got it.
A Eduardo le va muy bien en ese trabajo porque gana mucho dinero. I think this means: Eduardo's work goes very well because he earns a lot of money. Is that right? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7021 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 6 of 9 26 October 2005 at 5:31pm | IP Logged | |||||
That's correct.
Yes, but it would be better as: Eduardo's doing very well in that job because he earns a lot of money. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Andy E Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 7109 days ago 1651 posts - 1939 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French | Message 7 of 9 27 October 2005 at 2:35am | IP Logged | |||||
I think that these idioms with dar should actually be translated/used as causative phrases. By this I mean they should be translated with the English make to contrast them with the equivalent idioms using be provided by a construction with tener. To wit: tener ganas de hacer algo = to feel like doing something dar ganas a alguien de hacer algo = to make someone feel like doing something. tener miedo = to be afraid dar miedo = to make (someone) afraid Andy. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7021 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 8 of 9 27 October 2005 at 10:19am | IP Logged | |||||
The explanation I was trying to write was something along the lines of Andy's (minus the grammar), but it was late and I was tired :)
These phrases are much better. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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