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| TheBiscuit Tetraglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 5923 days ago 532 posts - 619 votes  Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Italian Studies: German, Croatian | Message 1 of 13 17 April 2009 at 9:17pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I've been wondering whether it's correct Spanish to say "ojalá que". I don't hear it in Mexico but I do see forum members using it which makes me wonder if it's used like that in other Spanish speaking countries. A Spanish teacher here once told me it was wrong and in fact redundant to add "que" to ojalá. Any thoughts?
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| TheBiscuit Tetraglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 5923 days ago 532 posts - 619 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Italian Studies: German, Croatian | Message 3 of 13 17 April 2009 at 11:40pm | IP Logged | |||||
No, that's just me, thanks for the correction. Shows you how much I write in Spanish here! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| manuelram16 Diglot Newbie United States Joined 6080 days ago 20 posts - 24 votes Speaks: English, Spanish* Studies: French, German | Message 4 of 13 18 April 2009 at 4:40am | IP Logged | |||||
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Both are commonly used in Spanish,
"Ojala no llueva hoy" "Ojala que te mueras" Of course if you apply the rules of "La Real Academia Española" things change. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6011 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 5 of 13 18 April 2009 at 3:05pm | IP Logged | |||||
There ain't nothing wrong with no redundancies. Spanish is riddled with them -- every language is. I mean, "I did it yesterday" is redundant -- there's two things in it that place it in the past when you only need one. Some people, particularly teachers, have a tendency to be "overcorrect" at times (and I used to be one of them!) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| thephilologist Tetraglot Newbie United States Joined 6034 days ago 26 posts - 29 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, German, French Studies: Portuguese | Message 6 of 13 19 April 2009 at 12:48am | IP Logged | |||||
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Both are used, though where I've spent time (mostly South American) people almost always include the "que".
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| jimbo baby! Senior Member United States Joined 5977 days ago 202 posts - 208 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English* | Message 7 of 13 19 April 2009 at 6:35am | IP Logged | |||||
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The first thing I thought of when seeing this thread was the song "Ojalá Que Llueva Café" by Juan Luis Guerra, which is a really nice song.
It appears at least that the expression is used informally by Spanish speakers and it is acceptable. But I don't know what a Spanish grammarian would say about that. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| stelingo Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5832 days ago 722 posts - 1076 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Czech, Polish, Greek, Mandarin | Message 8 of 13 19 April 2009 at 10:41am | IP Logged | |||||
Which word in the sentence 'I did it yesterday' is redundant exactly? If you say 'I did it' then we don't know when you did it (yesterday, last week, last month etc) If we take out the word 'did' then the sentence doesn't make any sense and is wrong grammatically. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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