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Natural Accent Talent: The magic of Urdu? | ||
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| Lizzern Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5909 days ago 791 posts - 1053 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 17 of 33 08 June 2009 at 10:50pm | IP Logged | |||||
I don't really have anything to add to this discussion, I've never studied Urdu so I'll leave it to those who know it to discuss the specifics with you, but... Could you at least keep it civil? If your argument holds there should be no need to resort to insults. It never adds anything positive to a discussion. Just sayin' 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Paskwc Pentaglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5677 days ago 450 posts - 624 votes Speaks: Hindi, Urdu*, Arabic (Levantine), French, English Studies: Persian, Spanish | Message 18 of 33 08 June 2009 at 11:14pm | IP Logged | |||||
This is not necessarily the case. These are all SIMILAR to English letters but they are not identical. Using these when speaking in English will allow you to be understood but you will probably not be mistaken for a native speaker. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Faim de Siècle Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5807 days ago 36 posts - 39 votes Speaks: English*, French | Message 19 of 33 09 June 2009 at 12:11am | IP Logged | |||||
What native residents of France pronounce it as such (for example, what regions)? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Guido Super Polyglot Senior Member ArgentinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6528 days ago 286 posts - 582 votes Speaks: Spanish*, French, English, German, Italian, Portuguese, Norwegian, Catalan, Dutch, Swedish, Danish Studies: Russian, Indonesian, Romanian, Polish, Icelandic | Message 20 of 33 09 June 2009 at 12:13am | IP Logged | |||||
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1. There are more than 120 consonants-sounds. Urdu use not more than 40 of them. 2. There are more than 40 vowels-sounds. Urdu use 11 of them. 3. Pakiboy, behave yourself! 4. Urdu has... less than 30% of the total sounds. 5. I repeat it: Behave yourself! Check in Wikipedia or anywhere else and just take a look at the IPA-sounds table. Have a nice day! Guido .- 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| pakiboy Newbie United States Joined 5655 days ago 13 posts - 13 votes Speaks: English | Message 21 of 33 09 June 2009 at 2:35am | IP Logged | |||||
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Bottom line: Urdu has more sounds than any other language in the world and you cannot dispute that.
I am waiting for Professor Arguelles comment on this one. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Paskwc Pentaglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5677 days ago 450 posts - 624 votes Speaks: Hindi, Urdu*, Arabic (Levantine), French, English Studies: Persian, Spanish | Message 22 of 33 09 June 2009 at 3:18am | IP Logged | |||||
"The language with the most sounds (phonemes): !Xóõ (112 phonemes)" http://www.vistawide.com/languages/language_statistics.htm Edited by Paskwc on 09 June 2009 at 8:02am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Hashimi Senior Member Oman Joined 6259 days ago 362 posts - 529 votes Speaks: Arabic (Written)* Studies: English, Japanese | Message 23 of 33 09 June 2009 at 3:22am | IP Logged | |||||
You speak French, aren't you? Many people in southern France, Corsica, and Quebec (especially among the old generation) pronounce the R as alveolar trill like the R in Arabic and Spanish. Do you the famous French singer Dalida? She pronounce it like that. 300 years ago, it was the common R in France. In Le Bourgeois Gentilhomme by Molière (written in the 17th century) there is a professor who describe the sound of "R" in France as an alveolar trill like that of Spanish and Arabic. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Russianbear Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6775 days ago 358 posts - 422 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, Ukrainian Studies: Spanish | Message 24 of 33 09 June 2009 at 4:03am | IP Logged | |||||
Nice to see you are open minded about it. According to Wikipedia, Urdu has 47 phonemes (36 consonants and 11 vowels). Depending on how one does the counting, one can probably arrive at a similar or greater number for languages like English or Russian. But the true champions would be languages like !Xóõ, like Paskwc mentioned. Many caucasian languages have a huge number of sounds. For example, Chechen has about 44 vowels and about 40 to 60 consonants "(depending on the dialect and the analysis)".
Keep waiting; it might take a while. I am not sure the professor is in any hurry to dispel every single language-related myth on the internet. Edited by Russianbear on 09 June 2009 at 4:07am 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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