Jackal11 Groupie United States Joined 5662 days ago 41 posts - 45 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Latin
| Message 1 of 2 12 June 2009 at 6:50pm | IP Logged |
I am currently using Orberg's 'LINGVA LATINA' to study Latin. But in chapter's 2 and 3 I have run into problems concerning the relative and interrogative pronouns used by Latin. I am coming across sentences such as 'Quae est mater Marci?' and 'Quae est puella quae plorat?' In both of these sentences, 'quae is, I presume, the nominative singular feminine interrogative pronoun (except for the second 'quae' in the second sentence, which I presume is actually a nominative singular feminine relative pronoun). Orberg declines it just as if it were similar to the nominative singular feminine relative pronoun. However according to this link:
http://abacus.bates.edu/acad/depts/crll/latin101/Chapter19/i nterrog.htm
and this link:
http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/101/RelativePronouns.pdf
the nominative singular Latin feminine interrogative pronoun should be declined as 'quis' (identical to the nominative singular Latin masculine interrogative pronoun).
Nevertheless, this link below agrees with Orberg!
http://www.orbilat.com/Languages/Latin/Grammar/Latin-Pronoun s_Interrogative_and_Relative.html
So who's right? Should the two sentences actually read 'Quis est mater Marci?' and 'Quis est puella quae plorat?'
Please help.
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Alkeides Senior Member Bhutan Joined 6148 days ago 636 posts - 644 votes
| Message 2 of 2 12 June 2009 at 7:46pm | IP Logged |
Actually the last link you provided agrees with the above two as well.
"Usually the feminine forms are substituted by the masculine ones."
Orberg isn't technically wrong on this I think, he's just trying to illustrate the point of grammatical gender. Later on he uses "eius" when "suus" is the norm as well.
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