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Pronouncing "ы" like in "Ты"
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tricoteuse
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I would recommend the north, that's where I come from and I constantly miss it (the nature, the CALM people, the atmosphere...) ;) Sadly, Oslo has true "Hey We Are Rich"-areas, and the other areas kind of suck in comparison. -_- Where do you live now, cordelia0507?
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Russianbear
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06 May 2009 at 5:14pm | IP Logged

cordelia0507 wrote:

Great tips, thanks everyone!
The explanation from Russianbear was good (you've got the best nick on the site!!)

Thanks. I was going for the corniest, but if it is the best, I don't really mind :)
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michau
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07 May 2009 at 2:55pm | IP Logged

cordelia0507 wrote:

I seem to be doing well with Russian pronounciation :-) but the one sound that I feel unsure about is "ы"

I don't think the sound is used in any other languages apart from maybe Belorussian and Ukrainian (??)

It is not used in Ukrainian, but it is used in Polish (and spelled as "y").

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How exactly is it different from "И" ?
How can I know that I am pronouncing it right?
Is there any good trick ?

The trick is simple. Norwegian and Swedish "u" is a close central rounded vowel, while Polish "y" and Russian "ы" is a close central unrounded vowel. So simply say Swedish "u" without rounding the lips.

I used the same trick the other way round - I said Polish "y", rounded my lips and voila! - Norwegian "u" without any problems. It's sad that so many Poles speaking Norwegian cannot pronounce it correctly.

PS. I'm trying to improve my English. Please PM me if you see any mistakes in my post.
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07 May 2009 at 4:12pm | IP Logged

Michau, that makes perfect sense!! Very good explanation.

Your English is flawless in this posting. If you hadn't mentioned it I would have thought you were a native.

Wow, it really solves my worry about this - I can't believe I didn't notice it myself.
If it hadn't been for the cyrillic letters I probably would have thought of it, like I do with European languages... But the Cyrillic has a bit of mystery to it, so I got distracted..

Thanks again.

Edited by cordelia0507 on 07 May 2009 at 10:15pm

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