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cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5840 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 1 of 13 07 May 2009 at 12:14pm | IP Logged |
I am looking for a font which looks like what it taught in "propisi" style handwriting exercise books.
Do you know the font name of such a font, or where I can find one?
I would be super-grateful for some help / advice?
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Update: The font is just called propisi.ttf I found it on torrents.bir.ru
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Example of what this handwriting looks like:
Edited by cordelia0507 on 07 May 2009 at 3:43pm
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6911 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 2 of 13 07 May 2009 at 2:38pm | IP Logged |
"Arbat" looks quite OK on my computer (I can't say if it matches the propisi-norm perfectly, though):
http://www.angelfire.com/pop/top4/fonts/
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| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5840 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 3 of 13 07 May 2009 at 3:03pm | IP Logged |
Hi, Yes it's closer than the fonts that I had on my computer. But it's not what exactly what I was after.
The thing is that Russian has a special handwriting that looks quite different from the typed letter - it's adapted to be faster to write by hand.
When I studied Russian as a kid (forgotten all now, unfortunately) huge emphasis was put on learning this writing-style. Basically, if you don't learn it, you have a really hard time writing anything by hand in Russian.
I'd like to quickly familiarise myself with this style again and use it until it sticks in my head for good. It's a real mind-twister because some of the Russian letters in handwriting are the same as a completely different letter in latin handwriting!
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6705 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 4 of 13 07 May 2009 at 11:17pm | IP Logged |
We have discussed this earlier, and I know that most Russians and teachers of Russian insist that you learn the handwritten cursive Cyrillic. However I have from the beginning taken the stance that I wanted to write something that comes as close to ordinary printed letters as possible, and after having written hundreds of pages (wordlists, translations and free text) I can now write those typed Russian letters as fast as my normal 'Latin' handwriting, and the result is much more legible even for myself. Besides I have yet to see Russian handwriting outside text books.
Edited by Iversen on 07 May 2009 at 11:18pm
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| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5840 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 5 of 13 08 May 2009 at 2:03am | IP Logged |
Wow, it all came back to me after I traced those letters on a paper! It's amazing when you think that you have forgotten something and it was there in your head all along.
I remembered how to do all the letters them apart from the Russian f and the Russian b. I'll have to ask someone later..
Iversen I see your point and I'd follow it if it wasn't for the fact I already actually know this.
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| qklilx Moderator United States Joined 6188 days ago 459 posts - 477 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean Personal Language Map
| Message 6 of 13 09 May 2009 at 2:46am | IP Logged |
cordelia0507 please call it Cyrillic as Russian is only one of several languages that uses the alphabet. Sorry to be nit-picky.
Also Iversen, while I can't speak for other Slavic languages that use the script, I can tell you that Mongolians write it very similarly. And while I can't comment on even Russian in this case, Mongolians claim that the method of writing certain characters can vary from person to person. I confirmed that when I had several of my friends write the same word on the board. Some letters did indeed look different. Some are close, and some are almost totally different.
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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5849 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 7 of 13 09 May 2009 at 8:11pm | IP Logged |
Iversen wrote:
We have discussed this earlier, and I know that most Russians and teachers of Russian insist that you learn the handwritten cursive Cyrillic. However I have from the beginning taken the stance that I wanted to write something that comes as close to ordinary printed letters as possible, and after having written hundreds of pages (wordlists, translations and free text) I can now write those typed Russian letters as fast as my normal 'Latin' handwriting, and the result is much more legible even for myself. Besides I have yet to see Russian handwriting outside text books. |
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I had one year of private lessons in Russian from 1996-1997 and in these lessons for writing my homework I consequently used Cyrillic blockletters and no handwriting. For me Cyrillic blockletters look better distinguishable than handwriting with "t" looking like "m" and other irritating features. Using the Greek language everyone writes blockletters, so why not doing it with Russian as well? Where really the Cyrillic handwriting is needed, is for letter correspondence with Russian people, because Russians will use handwriting when writing their letters. Hypothetically (I have no intention of picking up Russian again) I would also use Cyrillic blockletters as standard writing.
(Фасулые) edit: Lexilogos transferred my Latin letters wrongly into Cyrillic.
It should be: Фасуле
Edited by Fasulye on 10 May 2009 at 1:22pm
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| charlmartell Super Polyglot Senior Member Portugal Joined 6246 days ago 286 posts - 298 votes Speaks: French, English, German, Luxembourgish*, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, Dutch, Italian, Latin, Ancient Greek Studies: Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 8 of 13 10 May 2009 at 12:39am | IP Logged |
Fasulye wrote:
Using the Greek language everyone writes blockletters
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Says who? I was faced with handwritten menus in quite a few small but very nice restaurants in Greece and had incredible trouble deciphering them as I had never learnt any cursive. Needless to say I have now.
Fasulye wrote:
Where really the Cyrillic handwriting is needed, is for letter correspondence with Russian people, because Russians will use handwriting when writing their letters. Hypothetically (I have no intention of picking up Russian again) I would also use Cyrillic blockletters as standard writing. |
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What's wrong with cursive Cyrillic. It's actually very easy, once you're used to it. And as you say, Russians do use it, so why do you refuse it. (Russians "will" use it is very condescending as it implies that they are unreasonable and insist on doing something you don't approve of.) All right, if like Iversen you use blockletters in Western script as well .....
P.S. By the way, if you want to russify your name, Фасулые would actually be Фасуле without the hard ы sound absent in the Turkish word for "bean". You might even use the Russian version Фасоль instead, especially as that is feminine, like Bohne in German. Just a thought.
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