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| charlmartell Super Polyglot Senior Member Portugal Joined 6246 days ago 286 posts - 298 votes  Speaks: French, English, German, Luxembourgish*, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, Dutch, Italian, Latin, Ancient Greek Studies: Mandarin, Japanese | Message 9 of 13 10 May 2009 at 12:41am | IP Logged | |||||
Says who? I was faced with handwritten menus in quite a few small but very nice restaurants in Greece and had incredible trouble deciphering them as I had never learnt any cursive. Needless to say I have now.
What's wrong with cursive Cyrillic. It's actually very easy, once you're used to it. And as you say, Russians do use it, so why do you refuse it. (Russians "will" use it is very condescending as it implies that they are unreasonable and insist on doing something you don't approve of.) All right, if like Iversen you use blockletters in Western script as well ..... P.S. By the way, if you want to russify your name, Фасулые would actually be Фасуле without the hard ы sound absent in the Turkish word for "bean". You might even use the Russian version Фасоль instead, especially as that one is feminine, just like Bohne in German. Just a thought. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5849 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 10 of 13 10 May 2009 at 9:25am | IP Logged | |||||
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Quote Charlmartell:
"What's wrong with cursive Cyrillic. It's actually very easy, once you're used to it. And as you say, Russians do use it, so why do you refuse it. (Russians "will" use it is very condescending as it implies that they are unreasonable and insist on doing something you don't approve of.) All right, if like Iversen you use blockletters in Western script as well ..... P.S. By the way, if you want to russify your name, Фасулые would actually be Фасуле without the hard ы sound absent in the Turkish word for "bean". You might even use the Russian version Фасоль instead, especially as that is feminine, like Bohne in German. Just a thought." I only learned Ancient Greek at school and I have never been to Greece. So I have never had the chance to see any Greek cursive writing (Schreibschrift). Could somebody please put an example of this in this forum to show me? I really would like to see it! It very natural that Russian use their cursive writing and everyone who deals with the Russian language should be able to read it. People who have Russian penfriends will need this reading skill. It's a personal choice, if some people prefer writing in Cyrillic blockletters. Russians will be able to read them anyway. About the word "Fasulye", I typed it into "Lexilogos" and Lexilogos converted it into Cyrillic letters. But you're right, Lexilogos made a mistake. The hard sound "ы" is indeed superfluous and the Russian "e" has a "je"-sound, so in Cyrillic it should be: Фасуле PS: It's so long ago, that I dealt with Russian, so please excuse! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5840 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian | Message 11 of 13 10 May 2009 at 3:05pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Actually, I agree that it's worth to learn this.
The font is used often for printed material. If you don't know it you can't read the material. As far as I understand it, everybody in "cyrillic countries" write in this way. Perhaps peoples experience of pressure to learn it very fast in school is making them negative? Otherwise what's the problem? Once you master it, this is a really convenient and elegant handwriting! It doesn't more than a few hours to learn. The material you need is downloadable from the internet, for example scanned versions of childrens handwriting books (no need to do the whole book, a few pages is enough). If someone really wants such material or the font I mentioned but isn't able to find it, just drop me a note and I'll mail it over. Edited by cordelia0507 on 10 May 2009 at 3:06pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6036 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes 5 sounds | Message 12 of 13 10 May 2009 at 3:34pm | IP Logged | |||||
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It is important to be able to *read* cursive Cyrillic, as many of the letters change shape dramatically. However, trying to learn how to write in cursive is pointless. Handwriting is a very personal thing and if you really need to write by hand you will gradually develop a style of your own. That's my view. Edited by Sennin on 10 May 2009 at 3:47pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6705 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 13 of 13 11 May 2009 at 1:59pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I have of course learnt to read printed Cyrillic which is used in many places, including my preferred dictionaries. But my point of view is that I want to write by hand in a way that is as close to the most common printed form as possible. Even printed cursive is much less common then the 'normal' typeface, and every single kind of handwritten Cyrillic is so rare in my world that I could just as well adopt the old medieval writing on Russian church walls and icons - in fact I have more reason to learn that kind of writing than handwritten cursive.
I do exactly the same thing in Greek, and I deplore the fact that I was taught a silly traditional handwriting style called 'skønskrift' in school ('beautiful' writing) instead of the alternative that at the time was called 'formskrift'. In the latter the letters were relatively close to the pointed form, and I have in fact a plan about teaching myself from scratch to write like a book - but it is hard to weed out evil old habits - probably as hard as to stop smoking or eating candy. I just don't want to make the same blunder again, and with Greek and Russian I had the choice from the start to do the logical thing - write printed letters. By the way, I have also stopped writing ë. I can see that many Russians do the same thing, and if they don't write other accents then it this one should also be weeded out. It's quite something else with Greek, where all accent are in fact written - but at least they have cut the repertoire down to one accent and no aspirations. Edited by Iversen on 11 May 2009 at 2:10pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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