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| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5840 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes  Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian | Message 1 of 10 20 May 2009 at 12:28pm | IP Logged | |||||
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When people give me feedback on my spoken submissions on Livemocha I noticed that there is sometimes a difference between how people sound.
I can't quite put my finger on what, but with some words I am sure I noticed a difference. Those who usually help me are from Rostov-na-Donu, Ukraine, Voronesch, Moscow, Irkutsk and Turkmenistan... ! Quite a variety! I appreciate all their comments, and I am not yet at a stage where accent is very important, since I can hardly complete a sentence without making a grammatical error. But never the less I am interested to hear - is there a particular area of Russia that is considered to have good pronounciation? Is there a big difference between pronounciation in Moscow vs StPetersburg vs Ukraine or Siberia? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| SII Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5794 days ago 184 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Russian* Studies: English | Message 2 of 10 20 May 2009 at 1:55pm | IP Logged | |||||
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For example, it is typical for Ukranian and partly for South-Russian pronounciation to pronounce the sound "Г" as something middle between the clear "Г" and "Х".
IMHO, it is better to be based on the Central- or Nord-Russian's (Moscow, Peterburg) or Siberia's pronounciation, not on the Ukraine's or South Russian's one (Rostov-na-Donu, Voronesch etc). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| milele Triglot Newbie Poland Joined 5669 days ago 10 posts - 10 votes Speaks: Polish*, Russian, English Studies: Italian | Message 3 of 10 20 May 2009 at 2:04pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I'm a student of faculty of Russian language at the Polish University. We are told that there are some differences in pronounciation depending on region of the country. Generally we learn Moscow pronounciation as the propriate one. But I suppose that there is no mistake if you talk with StPetersburg or other accent. E.g. during our descriptive grammar lessons it's possible to make a phonetic transcription accordingly with Moscow or StPetersburg pronounciation.
And one more thing. I think it' s quite natural that you can hear different way of speking Russian. There are thousands of people coming from countries like Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania, Kazakhstan etc. and probably they speak with their native pronounciation. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5840 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian | Message 4 of 10 20 May 2009 at 2:10pm | IP Logged | |||||
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That's interesting! Someone said I sounded like an Estonian.. My native language is Swedish, so I suppose that might make sense. I imagine a Polish person can easily get a near perfect accent though!
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| milele Triglot Newbie Poland Joined 5669 days ago 10 posts - 10 votes Speaks: Polish*, Russian, English Studies: Italian | Message 5 of 10 20 May 2009 at 2:26pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Cordelia0507, believe me even if you are Polish or other Slavic nation it's not so easy like it seems to be :) I have been learnin Russian for more than five years. Last week I recorded myself and then I listened it. I was really shocked how different my pronounciation was from apropriate one. By the way that was a funny experience to find out that:)
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| Russianbear Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6777 days ago 358 posts - 422 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, Ukrainian Studies: Spanish | Message 6 of 10 20 May 2009 at 9:56pm | IP Logged | |||||
Here is what I wrote in Best city/region to learn your language thread:
Anyways, I would probably agree with SII that the stereotypical Ukrainian accent is probably something one shouldn't take as a model, but the important thing is: it all depends on an individual. It is possible that the people you talk to who are from Ukraine and Turkmenistan speak better Russian than those who are in Russia proper. Just because someone is from outside Russia doesn't mean they don't speak Russian well. Russian is remarkably uniform in terms of native dialects, and there are only a few main dialects that are very easily understandable to one another (oftentimes one has to have a very good ear for accents to even tell them apart). SII already mentioned the southern/Ukrainian dialect that pronounces "G" differently. There are places that tend to pronounce unstressed vowels phonetically -well, kinda, sorta, almost phonetically - and this can make one sound like a hick or it can sound archaic. This is called okanye (оканье) pronunciations (so that the unstressed "o"s are overpronounced compared to the standard dialect). And there is a dialect in other places - like Moscow- that reduce vowels greatly (and this is called "akanye" - the unstressed vowels are greatly reduced, while in case of Moscow the "a"s tend to be overpronounced). The standard dialect is probably somewhere in between those two. Edited by Russianbear on 20 May 2009 at 10:02pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Whisker Newbie United States Joined 5751 days ago 4 posts - 4 votes Speaks: Spanish | Message 7 of 10 22 May 2009 at 4:27am | IP Logged | |||||
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Does anyone know anything about the Russian and accent from Belarus?
-Rolly 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Julie Heptaglot Senior Member PolandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6905 days ago 1251 posts - 1733 votes 5 sounds Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, GermanC2, SpanishB2, Dutch, Swedish, French | Message 8 of 10 22 May 2009 at 11:20am | IP Logged | |||||
No, he can't. Russian accent is quite tricky for Polish speakers as the melody of language is very different, and even similars sounds are pronounced in a noticably different way. Polish speaker also tend not to hear some important differences and to assume the sound is same as in Polish (often based on the spelling). Overall, it's not easy (some other Slavic languages, like Czech, are). 1 person has voted this message useful |
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