JS-1 Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 5985 days ago 144 posts - 166 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Arabic (Egyptian), German, Japanese, Ancient Egyptian, Arabic (Written)
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I would like to spend some time studying French pronunciation, but I don't really know
how to go about it. Everything I have found is either aimed at the beginner or the
academic linguist.
I have already learned to speak French, but I would still like to spend some time
studying the phonology of the language.
If anyone could point me in the direction of some good materials I would be very
grateful.
Thanks in advance!
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dmg Diglot Senior Member Canada dgryski.blogspot.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 7013 days ago 555 posts - 605 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Dutch, Esperanto
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Try the following:
FSI Introduction to French Phonology, Phonetique: Apprendre à prononcer le français, À l'écoute du français.
As for linguistic resources, there's "Savoir Dire" by Diane M. Dansereau and "Bien Entendu!: Introduction à la prononciation française" by Albert Valdman.
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JS-1 Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 5985 days ago 144 posts - 166 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Arabic (Egyptian), German, Japanese, Ancient Egyptian, Arabic (Written)
| Message 3 of 8 22 May 2009 at 8:28pm | IP Logged |
These look really interesting.
Thank you DMG.
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Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6036 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes 5 sounds
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JS-1 wrote:
If anyone could point me in the direction of some good materials I would be very
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radio (Europe 1 is good), films, etc.
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tpark Tetraglot Pro Member Canada Joined 7048 days ago 118 posts - 127 votes Speaks: English*, German, Dutch, French Personal Language Map
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"Pronounce it perfectly" from Barrons is not bad. "Savoir Dire" by Diane Dansereau is really good. I like "The
Rhythm of French" electronic learning course because it gives examples, and has exercises to help you hear the
differences between English and French. If you get "Savoir Dire" there is a second edition, and there are audio disks
available to help you on your quest for perfect pronunciation.
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zerothinking Senior Member Australia Joined 6374 days ago 528 posts - 772 votes Speaks: English*
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I went through FSI French Phonology and I can vouch for it's eye-opening quality. I
always go over a languages phonology before I start learning a language now. Because
then I know what I am looking for and what to hear. That way I know when sounds are
meant to be different - even if I do not hear them as such.
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JS-1 Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 5985 days ago 144 posts - 166 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Arabic (Egyptian), German, Japanese, Ancient Egyptian, Arabic (Written)
| Message 7 of 8 24 May 2009 at 6:10pm | IP Logged |
Thanks everyone!
I think what I am looking for is something that goes more deeply into the way French
is actually spoken, as opposed to "idealised" forms of each sound. I think it's
fascinating to listen to the way native speakers differ from each other in their
pronunciation -due to regional accents and the like. I also get the impression that
many French speakers make distinctions within a particular vowel sound depending on
word it belongs to, even if these distinctions aren't part of "official" French
pronunciation. However as a non-native speaker, I am probably hearing things funny:)
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dmg Diglot Senior Member Canada dgryski.blogspot.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 7013 days ago 555 posts - 605 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Dutch, Esperanto
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JS-1 wrote:
I think what I am looking for is something that goes more deeply into the way French is actually spoken, as opposed to "idealised" forms of each sound. |
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In that case, your two options are to listen to a wide variety of audio materials from all over (So, not just France, but Quebec, Africa, Louisiana, Martinique, Guadeloupe, ...) *and* look for some academic material that goes into the differences more.
Both my Assimil "Québécois de Poche" and Ulysses "Canadian French for Better Travel" go into the differences in Quebec pronunciation from "mainstream" French, and so do the Wikipedia pages.
I know my copy of "Savoire Dire" also delves into the different groupings of particular vowels in different socio-economic and regional dialects in France.
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