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| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6013 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes  Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 17 of 24 10 April 2009 at 11:19am | IP Logged | ||
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SRC,
As Javi says, learning a "Castillian" distinción accent is helpful to your spelling. Furthermore it is easier to go from speaking with distinción to speaking without it. However, at the same time,
Yeah, don't worry too much. You won't be able to hear the subtle differences between most accents anyway, and it's good to hear a variety -- because then you can understand a variety, and can go to more places more easily! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6013 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 18 of 24 10 April 2009 at 11:24am | IP Logged | ||
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My favourite example for distinguishing the 3 s/z types
Thoy de therca de thevilla -- hablo con thetheo. Soy del sentro de Sevilla -- hablo con seseo. No soy ni de therca ni del thentro de Sevilla. Hablo con distinthión. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| gogglehead Triglot Senior Member Argentina Joined 6077 days ago 248 posts - 320 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Russian, Italian | Message 19 of 24 10 April 2009 at 11:36am | IP Logged | ||
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Or Rioplatense (River Plate):
Soy del sentro de SeviSHa 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Rout Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5714 days ago 326 posts - 417 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish Studies: Hindi | Message 20 of 24 12 April 2009 at 3:21am | IP Logged | ||
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You have to remember that there are by FAR more Mexican Spanish speakers than any other country. It's hard for me to tell the difference between educated speakers though. I usually just assume they're Colombian, haha. I think the focus would be to stay away from bad accents when you're studying like some of those mentioned here. I won't go into that here though. ;)
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| thephilologist Tetraglot Newbie United States Joined 6036 days ago 26 posts - 29 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, German, French Studies: Portuguese | Message 21 of 24 13 April 2009 at 3:27am | IP Logged | ||
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It all depends on what you want it for. If you plan to interact with a people of a certain country, learn that country's accent. The main choice is Latin American vs. European, because this accounts for more vocabulary differences than among the specific accents in Europe or in Latin America. Other than that, just stay away from the stranger accents: Caribbean, Paraguayan, Rioplatense (Argentina and Uruguay), Colombian coast (the rest of Colombia speaks fine), and most accents in Spain other than that of Castille. But as has been said before, no matter what accent you learn, you will understand and be understood everywhere, with only simple mix-ups such as those between Britons and Americans. For learning the sounds, most people (myself included) agree that the Peruvians speak the most clearly, so you might try to get some sound clips of the Peruvian accent.
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| sprachefin Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5748 days ago 300 posts - 317 votes Speaks: German*, English, Spanish Studies: French, Turkish, Mandarin, Bulgarian, Persian, Dutch | Message 22 of 24 13 April 2009 at 7:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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What you must remember is that when you obtain a Spanish learning product, it is going to provide you with a pretty standard Spanish. Although they may use native speakers, those native speakers will be from a location that has an extremely neutral accent. If you are planning to spend time in a Spanish speaking country, I would choose Spain. Just avoid going into any of the parts of Spain where they have a regional language like Catalan or Galican. I spent quite a lot of time in Spain and I had learned a bit of Spanish beforehand so I guess you could say I have already tried Spanish. I did not just "drop" it, I didn't feel the need to continue for whatever reason. I'm sure I would get by reasonably well if I really tried hard.
Anyways, back to the subject at hand. Choose the right part of Spain to pick up Spanish, and you will be fine anywhere else in the world. I met a few Americans on a holiday once, and one of them said that they had learn Spanish, and moved to Spain for a year or two for an exchange student program. They stayed somewhere in Madrid. They said that they were aware of the varied accent of Andalusia, but they had not met anyone who spoke with that particular accent. They said they met one person from Galicia, but they did not detect a varied accent. They claimed they had no trouble conversing with South American immigrants when they returned to the United States. I think that Spain is the way to go, but if you are an American, Mexico is a fine place to pick up Spanish as well. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| global_gizzy Senior Member United States maxcollege.blogspot. Joined 5705 days ago 275 posts - 310 votes Studies: Spanish | Message 23 of 24 14 April 2009 at 9:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm new to the language learning scene, ofcourse, but for languages where accents are a subject, I have decided that for the moment, I am going to ignore this so long as it isn't a "tonal" language that I'm learning.
I dont mind speaking with a accent, I just want to be able to speak, understand, write and read (excluding Mandarin. I'll be happy to JUST speak/understand and be understood.) If I ever go somewhere then I will concentrate on reproducing that language in that manner, the same way I do with English. When I'm in Texas, I speak with a slight Texan accent. At this particular moment I am studying as a bit of personal development for my self, because learning languages expands your mind and broadens your cultural horizons (if you study the languages different cultures) but my hopes for an immediate pay-off where languages are concerned is as simple and unsophisticated as I just want to be able to read/write most Romance languages so I can access their media and use message boards in that language online. I want to understand Japanese so I can bypass the stupid US violence "censor" and crappy "dubs" of Anime and enjoy these series in their original forms. Edited by global_gizzy on 14 April 2009 at 9:04pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| welles Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5701 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Turkish, German | Message 24 of 24 21 April 2009 at 5:14pm | IP Logged | ||
The Spanish spoken around La Paz, Bolivia is also very clear and is spoken less rapidly than in some other regions. The caveat I'd point out with learning Spanish in the altiplano region (and this probably applies to other regions of Latin America and Mexico), is the presence of very active Quechua- and Aymara-speaking communities that can influence the regional vocabulary. My wife is from La Paz, and both herself and her family sprinkle Quechua and Aymara words in their Spanish with regularity (especially adjectives). This isn't necessarily a problem, as you will almost always learn the proper Spanish words as well, but you can certainly fall into a comfort zone where using these words becomes natural and you have to concentrate a bit more to avoid them when conversing with Spanish-speakers from other regions. Personally, I find it fascinating and it has simply made me want to learn Aymara. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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