will72694 Groupie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5706 days ago 59 posts - 60 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 1 of 6 01 May 2009 at 2:58pm | IP Logged |
I am really focused on learning Russian at the moment, but so I don't get bored, and because I speak English
(which I hear is closely related to Swedish), I am trying to learn Swedish also. I have a real problem distinguishing
between the vowels -- especially 'i' and 'e'; the 'y', 'u', and 'o'. Sometimes the Ös and Ås sound similar, too.
I am using Ling.com's method and I listen repeatedly, which is supposed to help, but I have not noticed any
improvement in hearing the differences between those vowels.
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cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5840 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 2 of 6 01 May 2009 at 3:35pm | IP Logged |
Hmmm.... The ones you mention are quite different actually.
The ones which would be the easiest to mix up are "å" with "o"....
Your teaching material must have ommitted to explain this, because it shouldn't be a big problem. Try this link http://www.onlineswedish.com/pronounce.php or this
http://www2.hhs.se/isa/swedish/chap9.htm
If you still struggle after reading the guides above then just stick with it anyway. Confusion with languages have a tendency to mysteriously go away as long as you go full steam ahead. You'll find new confusions, but the old ones will have been resolved without you even noticing.
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6911 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 3 of 6 01 May 2009 at 5:46pm | IP Logged |
Will, remember that all vowels can be short or long. Many of them change "quality" slightly depending of what comes before or after, and on dialect/accent. Please post words you find problematic, and I'll be happy to help!
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Calvino Diglot Groupie Sweden sammafllod.wordpress Joined 5968 days ago 65 posts - 66 votes 2 sounds Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: French, Spanish, German
| Message 4 of 6 02 May 2009 at 11:04pm | IP Logged |
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Hmmm.... The ones you mention are quite different actually.
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No, no. You have to recall that English actually has a distinction, more or less, between "å" (as in "for") and "o" (as in "boot"). Whereas the sounds we represent by "y", "u" and "ö" do not even exist in English. It all depends on what you're used to hearing.
The vowels in question seem different enough to us, but are actually quite close phonetically.
Edited by Calvino on 02 May 2009 at 11:04pm
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will72694 Groupie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5706 days ago 59 posts - 60 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 5 of 6 03 May 2009 at 1:24am | IP Logged |
Hey, thanks for the help! I can't bring any words to mind while trying, of course, but sometimes it sounds as if the
'ä' is pronounced the same as 'i.' The word "är" for example sounds like " ir."
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6911 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 6 of 6 03 May 2009 at 2:40am | IP Logged |
OK, probably the speaker has a kind of "ea" ring to it. I pronounce "är" roughly as "air" while others (e.g. from the Stockholm region) may say it like "ear" (or rather "ea"). Compare "jag är svensk" with "ja e svensk".
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