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| Virginian683 Diglot Groupie United States Joined 6777 days ago 43 posts - 50 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Russian | Message 9 of 13 18 September 2008 at 6:51pm | IP Logged | |||||
Interesting. Well I suppose without concepts such as "currency," "history," or any form or science, counting would be rather redundant. It isn't often I look around and count things just for the hell of it. Of course, if over many thousands of years a people had not first thought of counting, how could it develop anything characterizing an advanced culture? In other words I agree with psychologists that language has a big impact on human thinking, but it is MAN who invents language. Edited by Virginian683 on 18 September 2008 at 6:52pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| zenmonkey Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6552 days ago 803 posts - 1119 votes  1 sounds Speaks: EnglishC2*, Spanish*, French, German Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew | Message 10 of 13 18 September 2008 at 11:17pm | IP Logged | |||||
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If you wish to learn about Pirahã the reference is Everett's book: A lingua piraha e a teoria da sintaxe: Descricao, perspectivas e teoria
You can also hear it in a video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Spzjh9QgA and herehttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Spzjh9QgA a good reference is http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2008/01/piraha_the_worlds.html NPR: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9458681 Edited by zenmonkey on 18 September 2008 at 11:27pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| maya_star17 Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5915 days ago 269 posts - 291 votes Speaks: English*, Russian*, French, Spanish Studies: Japanese | Message 11 of 13 18 September 2008 at 11:54pm | IP Logged | |||||
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 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6703 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 12 of 13 13 July 2009 at 3:24pm | IP Logged | |||||
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A long lecture on the subject is found at http://fora.tv/2009/03/20/Daniel_Everett_Endangered_Language s_and_Lost_Knowledge
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| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6272 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 13 of 13 18 July 2009 at 11:59am | IP Logged | |||||
With the Tasmanians, we have to go on what was recorded about them by people who in many cases were exploiting them to death. The development of civilisation is driven by need. If the Tasmanians did not need an elaborate counting system, there was no impetus to develop it. Although they had numbers, the Incas had a formidable civilisation without writing, the only records being quipu, knotted string tied to sticks. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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