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 Message 65 of 3959
11 December 2008 at 5:50pm | IP Logged 
I forgot Afrikaans in the languages list, and also I want to say that I like some poetry, but not when it's complicated or absolutely abstract.

In continuation of the music conversation, do you know Charles Aznavour? I like veyr much this type of music

http://www.c-aznavour.com/SITE/accueil.html

and Florent Pagny : the beautiful song "Là où je t'emmènerai"

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-aRZP8hrK_x0/florent_pagny_l a_ou_je_temmenerai/

(I editted this and changed the link because this one has the video)


Now I must edit because this forum's not function good and has some crruptions: the space between "l" and "a"must not exist. When I've written it other times, this annoying forum put the space.

Edited by Jar-ptitsa on 12 December 2008 at 8:13am

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 Message 66 of 3959
11 December 2008 at 5:57pm | IP Logged 
Iversen wrote:
Celine Dion est en effet une cantatrice francocanadienne, qui a choisit d'adopter la langue Anglaise pour avoir une plus grande audience. In English that's called a sell-out, but apparently the change has worked out quite well for her.
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Ça c'est vrai. Au début elle a chanté seulement dans sa langue parentelle, le français. On l'a découverte sur le "Grand Prix d"Eurovision de la Chanson" et au début elle ne parlait pas du tout l'anglais. Elle a reçu un training intensif de la langue anglaise, pout etre capable de chanter et communiquer dans cette langue pour recevoir un succes international avec ces chansons.



Edited by Fasulye on 11 December 2008 at 7:01pm

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 Message 67 of 3959
11 December 2008 at 6:08pm | IP Logged 
Iversen wrote:
One thing more: I didn't "keep my knowledge level" after skipping the academic world, - my skills declined gradually until 2006, where I only could speak Danish, slightly rusty English, some German and bad French and ghastly Spanish (the latter was only saved because of my travels). I have relearned the rest of them since 2006 because I got annoyed to see that some people could speak dozens of languages. And then I just invented some methods to (re)learn languages on your own.


That's a late descision of diving that intensively into languages. By intensive travelling and excellent self-study methods you could enhance so many different languages in only two years. That's really a performance! It seems to me almost impossible to reach that in such a short period of time, but you have proven all your language abilities to the readers of this forum.

My own language development is completely different, because I am not suitable for self-study anyway, and I have no financial resources to do any travelling at all. In the 90's I went back to university again to study languages there. At that time I was studying several languages together as I specialized myself on Romance languages. This was a period of intensive and effective language learning for me, but my parents and I, we didn't see any concrete job perspectives in philology, so I decided not to finish my second university study. As a job strategy this was the right descision, because at private language schools they only hire native speakers and these jobs are quite insecure as well. I wanted to teach languages to adults.

ONE QUESTION: Is your classical music in any form related to foreign languages?

Edited by Fasulye on 12 December 2008 at 3:31am

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 Message 68 of 3959
12 December 2008 at 7:09am | IP Logged 
Jar-ptitsa wrote:
I forgot Afrikaans in the languages list,....


[AFR] Ek het nie afrikaans vergeet nie - ek het afrikaans nie geleer nie!


Fasulye wrote:

ONE QUESTION: Is your classical music in any form related to foreign languages?


Not too much, mostly because I prefer instrumental music. But when I was around 10 years old I began collecting Italian words because Italian still is the standard language used in sheet music and scores (allegro, andante, da capo ..), and that developed into a real selfstudy of the language. And texts on old vinyl records, the small booklets in CD boxes and musical scores are still much more international than the same things in pop and rock, - my first experience with Russian was in fact the texts on my old records from Musidisc, Ariola, Meshdunarodnaya Kniga etc. which I had to decrypt in order to guess what the music inside was. And German scores (Eulenburg) are still widespread because music from Germany and Austria is so fundamental for all who like classical music.

BY the way, my reason for collecting Latin words several years before it was taught to me in school was the wise decision of Carl von Linné to use international, i.e. Latin (and Greek) names for plants and animals. I tried to make a collection of all names of birds and animal species, and for that purpose I had to use books from abroad. For instance I ordered all the catalogues of birds, mammals, reptiles and amphibians from British Museum of Natural History to my local library in Kolding, Denmark, - on my mother's card because I wasn't old enough to get a card for the adult section of the library, and they wouldn't order it through the children's section. But I couldn't take it home, so I sat there as a little googleeyed monster in the reading room of the library with those thick books and collected animal names in English and Latin, - and even Greek because I soon found out that some of the scientific names weren't in the Latin dictionaries, so I suspected that they were Greek. But I couldn't read Greek letters yet so I had to guess. For instance it was rather obvious that all birds called "leucogaster" had a white belly, and my doctor told me that 'gastritis' is an illness in the stomach, so leuco- then had to mean "white". But it was a slow and laborious way of (not) learning a language. It was much easier to collect Latin words because of the alphabet.

I must have been a weird kid.


Edited by Iversen on 12 December 2008 at 8:20am

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 Message 69 of 3959
12 December 2008 at 9:22am | IP Logged 
Fasulye wrote:

In the 90's I went back to university again to study languages there. At that time I was studying several languages together as I specialized myself on Romance languages. This was a period of intensive and effective language learning for me, but my parents and I, we didn't see any concrete job perspectives in philology, so I decided not to finish my second university study.


Therefore you stopped? Which profession have your parents? In my family it's much pressure to be lawyer but for sure my brother and I will not study this boring subject.


fasulye wrote:

As a job strategy this was the right descision, because at private language schools they only hire native speakers and these jobs are quite insecure as well. I wanted to teach languages to adults.

Where can you teach languages to adults? For sure you know very well the languages and can teach them I think.

babylonia wrote:
Is your classical music in any form related to foreign languages?


I know that you posed Iversen this question, but it's an interesting one i think. Of course opera's very connected at language, and Lieder as well. My favourite opera is Italian (Puccini, Verdi) and my favourite Lieder are German (Mahler, R. Strauß) but for relgious choral music I prefer Latin, for example Requiem (Fauré, Verdi). like Iversen, mostly I've listened instrumental music. This (instrumental music) is connected at the culture also, not only the era, therefore it depend of your view language-culture. The nationality of a composer is possible to hear in the music, although soemtimes not so evident than the others. It's much more things what I think and feel about music, but I'm not sure which ones I better dont' tell, because for example when i was about 13 it was a particluar thing which listen music has helped(it was when I thought everyone hear nasty voices who shout and are horrible but nobody don't talk about them therefore it's not allowed to talk about) and I listened many hours every day Dvorák Serenade for Strings because it made them to be more quiet. Sorry if it's not allowed to write this please don't make me to be invisible I will delete it if you prefer.it's because we're discussing music and since this time I love music.
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Jar-ptitsa
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 Message 70 of 3959
12 December 2008 at 9:29am | IP Logged 
Iversen wrote:
Jar-ptitsa wrote:
I forgot Afrikaans in the languages list,....


[AFR] Ek het nie afrikaans vergeet nie - ek het afrikaans nie geleer nie!


Ik bedoelde niet dat *jij* het had vergeten, maar ikzelf: toen ik dat talenlijst schreef en je vroeg over de muziek. afrikaans heb ik ook niet geleerd, maar het is wel te verstaan en hartstikke leuk, een gezellige taal.

+ edit: Ik vroeg me toen niet af of je die talen kon, b.v Afrikaans, omdat je alle de talen van de hele wereld lijkt te spreken LOL!!! De grens lag dus niet aan wat jij kon schrijven maar wat ik daarvan had kunnen begrijpen. [/edit]

Iversen wrote:

BY the way, my reason for collecting Latin words several years before it was taught to me in school was the wise decision of Carl von Linné to use international, i.e. Latin (and Greek) names for plants and animals. I tried to make a collection of all names of birds and animal species, and for that purpose I had to use books from abroad. For instance I ordered all the catalogues of birds, mammals, reptiles and amphibians from British Museum of Natural History to my local library in Kolding, Denmark, - on my mother's card because I wasn't old enough to get a card for the adult section of the library, and they wouldn't order it through the children's section. But I couldn't take it home, so I sat there as a little googleeyed monster in the reading room of the library with those thick books and collected animal names in English and Latin, - and even Greek because I soon found out that some of the scientific names weren't in the Latin dictionaries, so I suspected that they were Greek. But I couldn't read Greek letters yet so I had to guess. For instance it was rather obvious that all birds called "leucogaster" had a white belly, and my doctor told me that 'gastritis' is an illness in the stomach, so leuco- then had to mean "white". But it was a slow and laborious way of (not) learning a language. It was much easier to collect Latin words because of the alphabet.



It's a surprise that you aren't vetenary surgeon.

Edited by Jar-ptitsa on 12 December 2008 at 9:47am

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 Message 71 of 3959
12 December 2008 at 2:27pm | IP Logged 
Iversen wrote:
ONE QUESTION: Is your classical music in any form related to foreign languages? Not too much, mostly because I prefer instrumental music. But when I was around 10 years old I began collecting Italian words because Italian still is the standard language used in sheet music and scores (allegro, andante, da capo ..),


So you are specialized on listening to instrumental classical music. Yes, I know very well that there is a lot of music jargon in the Italian language: Da capo al fine, Dal segno al fine. I've found quite some Italian words in my guitar books, but this is easy for me, because I speak Italian.

I know that the Italian language is very important for the opera. I would assume that it is important for professional opera singers to learn Italian. As I do private singing myself I would not like so much to sing in a language which I don't speak.

The music I play together with my friends is predominantly in English, also in German, because my guitar pupil speaks better German than English (She's African!). I would like to integrate more foreign languages into my own music activities, but I haven't got a song repertoire in for example Italian, Spanish or French.



Edited by Fasulye on 12 December 2008 at 2:38pm

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 Message 72 of 3959
12 December 2008 at 4:30pm | IP Logged 
Maybe we can play Iversen's compositions? Faslyue can play the guitar, Iversen will play violin and I will play piano, we can put a recording of us on a website then we would play all 3 recordings simultaneously!!

If you want to do this, please put the music on here!!! Please write the exact speed because for play the same one we must use a metronome I think.


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