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LittleKey
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 Message 9 of 37
25 March 2009 at 1:59am | IP Logged 
Vai wrote:
if you want a real suggestion i'd say stop being a pussy and learn arabic since no one speaks farsi. with all due respect, of course.


Really Vai, If you call someone a pussy and then say you mean it with all due respect, do you really mean it in a respectful way? I know you weren't speaking to me, but as a matter of fact I live in an area where I have several Persian friends, probably 20% of my high school is Persian, I hear Farsi every day, and I'm studying it so I can understand the words I hear ALMOST EVERY DAY. And I've never heard Arabic spoken in real life. And this is in Southern California, U.S.A. It's not like I'm in Iran.

Where I am, learning Arabic would be several thousand times less useful in real life situations than Farsi is. And learning Farsi is connecting me to a whole new culture that I'm proud of getting to know more of. And how do you know that no one speaks Farsi wherever in Germany that Sprachfin is located? It could be similar to Southern California in that regard, for all you or anyone knows. So please think a little bit, and don't put down the 56,000,000 or so native Farsi speakers by saying their language is for pussies and is unimportant, because it's actually pretty hard to learn, and it's not hard to find a positive use for Farsi. It's all about respect.

Sorry for mucking up your thread with that rant Sprachfin. It would definitely be easier to learn Farsi than Arabic, seeing as you have Iranian friends. I wish you luck with whatever you decide to learn, and if that happens to be Farsi, I have a good link for you (http://easypersian.com). It's been very helpful for me. I don't know much about the pronounciation difference, because I've only learned the Farsi version of the script. There are some tricky letters, such as ghein and khe; I personally have trouble with ghein myself. I think it shouldn't really matter though, if you practice it enough I'm sure you could pick up all of the letters, it's just a matter of getting used to a sound you aren't used to producing. Good luck!

Edited by LittleKey on 25 March 2009 at 2:02am

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sprachefin
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 Message 10 of 37
25 March 2009 at 2:14am | IP Logged 
Thank you everyone for your contributions. Thank you LittleKey for your input and defense. I don't want to cause
problems but I do thank you for the support. I was listening to a disc I have recently received that has recordings of
the Persian sounds. I have listened to the ghein and it is somewhat similar to an R sound I sometimes make. My
Iranian friends are really helpful when I ask them to teach me some phrases. They even practice with me. One gave
me a book so I could learn to read it!!!
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LittleKey
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 Message 11 of 37
25 March 2009 at 2:32am | IP Logged 
You're welcome. And you didn't cause any problems, you were just asking an honest question. So don't worry, it's all khoob (good) =).

I COULD be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure ghein is pretty similar to the French "r", so that could explain why you know it already. Oh, and be careful when you ask your friends for help! I once asked my friends how to say something (I don't remember what, but it was generic, like "how are you today?" or something similar). They told me it was man seta tokhm daram, which in reality means "I have three testicles." hahaha. So tread with care =P!
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sprachefin
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 Message 12 of 37
25 March 2009 at 3:04am | IP Logged 
Hahah. Thank you so much.

I think that I have an idea of what the ghein is now. It is probably going to be pretty easy.

When I was learning English, one of my friends did exactly the same thing. Except, it was something like, "Can you
shove feces in my face?" Please feel free to experiment with other words in the place of feces if you know what I am
getting at. =)
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LittleKey
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 Message 13 of 37
25 March 2009 at 4:01am | IP Logged 
Hahaha yeah, I see what you're getting at. That's why it's a good idea to check what they tell You through a translator or something to make sure they aren't messing with you =P. I hope you didn't say that phrase too often before you found out what it meant hahaha. And I'm curious, is there a large Persian population where you are?
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