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Pronounching -er in French

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panurge
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 Message 1 of 12
30 May 2009 at 1:41pm | IP Logged 
Hi,

I've come across a pronunciation problem in French I can't solve myself.
Why are some word ending in -er pronounced as /e/ and others /ɛʁ/

For example:
olivier
/ɔ.li.vje/
tomber
/tɔ̃.be/

BUT
hier -> /i.ɛʁ/
hiver -> /i.vɛʁ/
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TheBiscuit
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 Message 2 of 12
30 May 2009 at 4:52pm | IP Logged 
Well, all verb endings in French are stressed slightly, and you're not pronouncing the r. (tombER)

With hier and hiver, you're pronouncing the r so the sound changes?

That would be my guess.


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Halie
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 Message 3 of 12
30 May 2009 at 6:30pm | IP Logged 
I think it has to do with the i in 'hier' and 'hiver'.

With practice it's something you'll just come to know without thinking about it. Listen to French people talking, frequently, and your own pronunciation will improve.
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Dark_Sunshine
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 Message 5 of 12
31 May 2009 at 12:33am | IP Logged 
I think the answer is Just Because. French has irregular pronunciation, although it's still not as irregular as English in that respect.
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CRHUSA
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 Message 6 of 12
01 June 2009 at 9:07pm | IP Logged 
I think it might be that you don't pronounce the R infinitive verbs, but if a word is a noun then you do.
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GuardianJY
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 Message 8 of 12
01 June 2009 at 11:39pm | IP Logged 
I agree with Halie. It just happens to be pronounced differently, and likely is pronounced with or without the r by different speakers, depending on dialect. Similar to "Y'all" vs. "you all."


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