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 Message 73 of 149
28 December 2009 at 11:51am | IP Logged 
That's important to know that the Danish letter "d" should be pronounced like a soft English "th" - sound. To verify this I will quote the IPA-transcriptions according to my dictionary:

med = {með}, {me}

ved = {veð}

hvad ={vað}, {va}

I know this IPA-symbol {ð}, so it's clear that my "l"-impression was wrong. This means that I will have to adapt my pronounciation in this case. Good to know this in the very beginning of my language studies, because I would be difficult to eliminate essential pronouncation mistakes after years of study or usage.

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Edited by Fasulye on 28 December 2009 at 12:07pm

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 Message 74 of 149
29 December 2009 at 12:59am | IP Logged 
In On L-R, Glossa.passion said:
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In Danish there’s the so called “soft d” where you have to put your tongue behind your lower front teeth. I wasn’t able to find that out only by listening! Maybe others can do it, but for me it’s not sufficient only to listen in order to get proper pronounciation.


Another thread on Danish "soft d":
Thread for stupid questions about Danish

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 Message 75 of 149
29 December 2009 at 8:08am | IP Logged 
I've also heard the Danish soft "d" in the word "med" to sound like "mel" to me.

Also, I would consider the "th" of "with" to be a hard "th".

Edited by Journeyer on 29 December 2009 at 8:09am

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 Message 76 of 149
29 December 2009 at 1:18pm | IP Logged 
Fasulye, I think you're hearing the sound as "l" from a German angle, maybe it resembles your -l in certain positions: Milch, weil, helfen, Onkel (which to my ears is a different sound than the English -l in milk, while, help, uncle).
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 Message 77 of 149
29 December 2009 at 1:52pm | IP Logged 
jeff_lindqvist wrote:
Fasulye, I think you're hearing the sound as "l" from a German angle, maybe it resembles your -l in certain positions: Milch, weil, helfen, Onkel (which to my ears is a different sound than the English -l in milk, while, help, uncle).


Yes, German "l" and English "l" are different, what I hear resembles the German "l"-sound. I am now training hard to produce the Danish "soft d" - sound. It's a real tong-fitness exercise!!!

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 Message 78 of 149
29 December 2009 at 4:47pm | IP Logged 
What is the position for a German L? It's a sound I haven't quite nailed down.
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 Message 79 of 149
29 December 2009 at 6:39pm | IP Logged 
Of course there are different types of l in English too, for example L-vocalisation (milk->miwk, old->owd). The last time I was in Germany, an English guy asked me the word for "slow(ly)". I said "langsam" and he repeated "rangsam"... almost as if his tongue position was behind the lower front teeth and tried to say /r/.

Is anybody here a phonetician?
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 Message 80 of 149
29 December 2009 at 8:51pm | IP Logged 
I am not a phonetician, Jeff, but when I as a native speaker pronounce a German "l" in words such as "viel", "Ball" "Spiele" etc. I always press my tong strongly against my upper front teeth. Therefore it's for me very difficult to produce a sound by moving my tong aginst my lower front teeth, this feels unnatural for me.

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