Lizzern Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5719 days ago 791 posts - 1053 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese
| Message 9 of 17 14 June 2009 at 11:16pm | IP Logged |
I'm sure it'd help to get more input in German, thankfully we have the internet so there's plenty of ways to practice! Have a look around for German online papers and such, find German music you like on youtube, listen to German radio, and so on. Some links:
http://www.multilingualbooks.com/online-radio-german.html
A thread about music:
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=10605&PN=1
I've found music to be really helpful, not to mention enjoyable (some language learners don't care much for this method, not for themselves anyway, but I can't do without it), and if you find a band you like there's bound to be interviews and whatnot on youtube, which makes it more meaningful. Find your reasons to learn the language and then find anything and everything you can about it online.
You might also want to read some posts on this site:
http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/all-japanese-all-t he-time-ajatt-how-to-learn-japanese-on-your-own-having-fun-a nd-to-fluency
This fellow learned Japanese fluently in 18 months by full-on immersion outside of Japan, so he has some good advice.
Try to have fun with it and it'll all come together beautifully, promise.
Liz
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Recht Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5611 days ago 241 posts - 270 votes Speaks: English*, GermanB1
| Message 10 of 17 15 June 2009 at 12:33am | IP Logged |
Immersion is helpful, but it is not necessary. It is good for cementing and perfecting
your skills. In the age of the internet, you can learn a language to fluency with a
dictionary and an internet connection.
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Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5479 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin
| Message 11 of 17 15 June 2009 at 10:11am | IP Logged |
Recht wrote:
Immersion is helpful, but it is not necessary. It is good for cementing and perfecting your skills. In the age of the internet, you can learn a language to fluency with a dictionary and an internet connection. |
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I am not sure about that. I must admit, I was once proud of my (textbook and language-class gained) Czech skills, until I started going to birthday parties and the like. When a group of "natives" get together, you quickly become lost as they bond by referring to their shared cultural background.
Dictionaries, textbooks, and the internet can take you far, but immersion is the only method I have found to pick up all the idioms. Without absorbing the cultural background, you get pretty lost in all but the most formal conversations.
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Rmss Triglot Senior Member Spain spanish-only.coRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6374 days ago 234 posts - 248 votes 3 sounds Speaks: Dutch*, English, Spanish Studies: Portuguese
| Message 12 of 17 15 June 2009 at 2:20pm | IP Logged |
Immersion is not useful or necessary? Ha! Really, it's the easiest way to become fluent, if not pretty much the only (people who became fluent by going to classes, always used extra input).
You should consider the AJATT method, or should I say AGATT?
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Recht Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5611 days ago 241 posts - 270 votes Speaks: English*, GermanB1
| Message 13 of 17 15 June 2009 at 3:02pm | IP Logged |
Splog wrote:
Recht wrote:
Immersion is helpful, but it is not necessary. It is good
for cementing and perfecting your skills. In the age of the internet, you can learn a
language to fluency with a dictionary and an internet connection. |
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I am not sure about that. I must admit, I was once proud of my (textbook and language-
class gained) Czech skills, until I started going to birthday parties and the like.
When a group of "natives" get together, you quickly become lost as they bond by
referring to their shared cultural background.
Dictionaries, textbooks, and the internet can take you far, but immersion is the only
method I have found to pick up all the idioms. Without absorbing the cultural
background, you get pretty lost in all but the most formal conversations. |
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Immersion can be accomplished at least mostly by the internet ( the oft referenced
AJATT). I was specifically
referring to actually being in the country.
Edited by Recht on 15 June 2009 at 3:04pm
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jclmellor Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5446 days ago 1 posts - 1 votes Studies: Italian
| Message 14 of 17 21 June 2009 at 9:42am | IP Logged |
Hi all,
I'm new to this site and I'm so happy to read all your tips! I'm learning Italian (it's the first time for me learning a language...) so I'm finding it pretty tough. I would really appreciate any tips about how to learn the language better (e.g. msuci websites, etc).
many thanks
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Paskwc Pentaglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5487 days ago 450 posts - 624 votes Speaks: Hindi, Urdu*, Arabic (Levantine), French, English Studies: Persian, Spanish
| Message 15 of 17 21 June 2009 at 9:53am | IP Logged |
Hey jclmellor,
Welcome to the forums.
I'm not sure about your specific circumstances, but some of the most popular resources for language learning are Assimil, FSI, Michel Thomas, and Pimsleur. I am pretty sure that each of these have courses for Italian. If you would like you can search for more information using the forum's search function.
Also, it might help you if you were to create a new thread in the beginner's area. That way more people will be able to see your question and you'll get more input.
Cheers and best wishes.
Edited by Paskwc on 21 June 2009 at 10:13am
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zerothinking Senior Member Australia Joined 6182 days ago 528 posts - 772 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 16 of 17 21 June 2009 at 11:12am | IP Logged |
No. You will never be fluent.
If you keep doing what you're doing.
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