JonB Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6046 days ago 209 posts - 220 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Italian, Dutch, Greek
| Message 9 of 20 13 August 2009 at 9:07am | IP Logged |
Jackal11 wrote:
I'm afraid I have to disagree. I find it incredibly rude that Professor Arguelles would abandon a room in this forum set up just for him so that he could start charging a hundred dollars just for the same service, without even giving a goodbye post to explain his actions and prevent people from wasting their time coming here to speak with him. As for all the supposed help he's been, I have exerted considerable eagerness asking him questions here and waiting for his responses, only to be ignored like many others. Praise him all you want, but I refuse to buy into this cult status that has sprung up around him. I'm sorry if this post sounds angry, but being snubbed really puts me in a foul mood. |
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I think Professor Arguelles is fully entitled to charge for his services. However, I would have to agree with you that it is a little rude to let people go on posting questions here in the understanding that their questions will be answered. Perhaps 'rude' is too harsh a word - let's say it seems a little bit inconsiderate.
Sprachprofi wrote:
I'm working with the World Esperanto Youth organization to possibly get European Union grants for a very intensive 2-week program guided by Professor Arguelles. If the EU agrees, this means that costs for the participants will be quite bearable, an amazing opportunity to study language learning. For non-EU citizens it will still be difficult though, especially if you're not a member of a big NGO that would send you. |
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So let's get this straight. The economies of all of the major European countries are in complete meltdown due to the Crunch. Unemployment is soaring - especially amoung young people. Yet the EU is using taxpayers' money to promote a pointless invented language?
I have nothing against people who want to indulge in this artificial culture at their own personal expense. But if public money is being used in support, then I believe that is a complete scandal. (I will be inclined to complain to my European Member of Parliament if this goes ahead.)
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If I seem a bit sour on this last point, it's because I've taken a few business-hits myself in the Crunch! At the best of times the EU wastes far too much taxpayers' money on stupid mumbo-jumbo projects. But at times like these any and every waste of taxes is completely intolerable - in my opinion.
Edited by JonB on 13 August 2009 at 12:41pm
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J-Learner Senior Member Australia Joined 5811 days ago 556 posts - 636 votes Studies: Yiddish, English* Studies: Dutch
| Message 10 of 20 13 August 2009 at 11:02am | IP Logged |
urgh...more politics...
Jackal11...get over it.
The professor has the right to do what he wants. If you not happy with it then getting angry over it won't do you any good.
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JonB Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6046 days ago 209 posts - 220 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Italian, Dutch, Greek
| Message 11 of 20 13 August 2009 at 12:28pm | IP Logged |
J-Learner wrote:
urgh...more politics...
Jackal11...get over it.
The professor has the right to do what he wants. If you not happy with it then getting angry over it won't do you any good. |
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Agreed. But if the professor is no longer doing the forum, I still say it would be nice to let us all know. (I'm sure he's very busy, etc. But it wouldn't take more than a few seconds just to put up a quick post.)
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Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6251 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 12 of 20 13 August 2009 at 1:07pm | IP Logged |
JonB, the EU is not promoting Esperanto per se but all kinds of seminars that bring together young people from different European countries and that teach them things that they can pass on to others. These seminars have to be organized by a recognized international non-government organization, and the World Esperanto Youth Organization is just one of the organizations that can organize such seminars and request funding.
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ProfArguelles Moderator United States foreignlanguageexper Joined 7037 days ago 609 posts - 2102 votes
| Message 13 of 20 13 August 2009 at 3:15pm | IP Logged |
It is unfortunately true that I have no time for the forum at present, but I have made no conscious decision to leave it, and, circumstances permitting, I hope to respond to substantive posts - such as the initial one in this thread - again in the future.
Alexander Arguelles
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J-Learner Senior Member Australia Joined 5811 days ago 556 posts - 636 votes Studies: Yiddish, English* Studies: Dutch
| Message 14 of 20 13 August 2009 at 4:33pm | IP Logged |
Professor, thanks for the update.
I think that I would be much happier to see a book from you and get personalized instruction after attempting to assimilate and practice the knowledge in said book. I've read about the progress you have made in this directions and hope that something can come of it. I think it will come to be known as "The polyglot's bible".
Perhaps, one day, when you train up an army of polyglots, they can take off some of the pressure in regards to your forum duties! Though I hardly think many could compare to you professor.
Sincerely,
Yehoshua Cohen.
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JonB Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6046 days ago 209 posts - 220 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Italian, Dutch, Greek
| Message 15 of 20 13 August 2009 at 5:08pm | IP Logged |
ProfArguelles wrote:
It is unfortunately true that I have no time for the forum at present, but I have made no conscious decision to leave it, and, circumstances permitting, I hope to respond to substantive posts - such as the initial one in this thread - again in the future.
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Professor, I would also like to thank you for giving us this update.
Perhaps I should apologize if some of my recent comments have seemed a little bit sour in their tone? But as others have also pointed out, there is a certain frustration in not knowing whether a forum is active or not (although I should also emphasize that I myself have not posted any questions.)
Anyway, it is good to know that you are well, and that you are still reading the forum from time to time. :-)
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JonB Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6046 days ago 209 posts - 220 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Italian, Dutch, Greek
| Message 16 of 20 13 August 2009 at 5:15pm | IP Logged |
Sprachprofi wrote:
JonB, the EU is not promoting Esperanto per se but all kinds of seminars that bring together young people from different European countries and that teach them things that they can pass on to others. These seminars have to be organized by a recognized international non-government organization, and the World Esperanto Youth Organization is just one of the organizations that can organize such seminars and request funding. |
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Well, maybe I was just being a little bit too sour about this?
(However, like many people here in the UK, I do have some very sceptical opinions of the European Union - especially when it comes to financial matters...)
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